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US generals ‘will quit’ if Bush orders Iran attack
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 02/25/07 | Michael Smith and Sarah Baxter

Posted on 02/24/2007 4:37:37 PM PST by Pokey78

SOME of America’s most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources.

Tension in the Gulf region has raised fears that an attack on Iran is becoming increasingly likely before President George Bush leaves office. The Sunday Times has learnt that up to five generals and admirals are willing to resign rather than approve what they consider would be a reckless attack.

“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” a source with close ties to British intelligence said. “There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible.”

A British defence source confirmed that there were deep misgivings inside the Pentagon about a military strike. “All the generals are perfectly clear that they don’t have the military capacity to take Iran on in any meaningful fashion. Nobody wants to do it and it would be a matter of conscience for them.

“There are enough people who feel this would be an error of judgment too far for there to be resignations.”

A generals’ revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented. “American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired,” said a Pentagon source. Robert Gates, the defence secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.

The threat of a wave of resignations coincided with a warning by Vice-President Dick Cheney that all options, including military action, remained on the table. He was responding to a comment by Tony Blair that it would not “be right to take military action against Iran”.

Iran ignored a United Nations deadline to suspend its uranium enrichment programme last week. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted that his country “will not withdraw from its nuclear stances even one single step”.

The International Atomic Energy Agency reported that Iran could soon produce enough enriched uranium for two nuclear bombs a year, although Tehran claims its programme is purely for civilian energy purposes.

Nicholas Burns, the top US negotiator, is to meet British, French, German, Chinese and Russian officials in London tomorrow to discuss additional penalties against Iran. But UN diplomats cautioned that further measures would take weeks to agree and would be mild at best.

A second US navy aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS John C Stennis arrived in the Gulf last week, doubling the US presence there. Vice Admiral Patrick Walsh, the commander of the US Fifth Fleet, warned: “The US will take military action if ships are attacked or if countries in the region are targeted or US troops come under direct attack.”

But General Peter Pace, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said recently there was “zero chance” of a war with Iran. He played down claims by US intelligence that the Iranian government was responsible for supplying insurgents in Iraq with sophisticated roadside bombs, forcing Bush on the defensive over some of the allegations.

Pace’s view was backed up by British intelligence officials who said the extent of the Iranian government’s involvement in activities inside Iraq by a small number of Revolutionary Guards was “far from clear”.

Hillary Mann, the National Security Council’s main Iran expert until 2004, said Pace’s repudiation of the administration’s claims was a sign of grave discontent at the top.

“He is a very serious and a very loyal soldier,” she said. “It is extraordinary for him to have made these comments publicly, and it suggests there are serious problems between the White House, the National Security Council and the Pentagon.”

Mann fears the administration is seeking to provoke Iran into a reaction that could be used as an excuse for an attack. A British official said the US navy was well aware of the risks of confrontation and was being “seriously careful” in the Gulf.

The US air force is regarded as being more willing to attack Iran. General Michael Moseley, the head of the air force, cited Iran as the main likely target for American aircraft at a military conference earlier this month.

A senior defence source said the air force “could do a lot of damage to the country if there were no other considerations”. But army chiefs fear an attack on Iran would backfire on American troops in Iraq and lead to more terrorist attacks, a rise in oil prices and the threat of a regional war.

Britain is concerned that its own troops in Iraq might also be drawn into any American conflict with Iran, regardless of whether the government takes part in the attack.

Bush is still pursuing a diplomatic agreement with Iran — urged on by secretary of state Condoleezza Rice.

One retired general who participated in the “generals’ revolt” against Donald Rumsfeld’s handling of the Iraq war said he hoped his former colleagues would resign in the event of an order to attack. “We don’t want to take another initiative unless we’ve really thought through the consequences of our strategy,” he warned.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barbrastreisand; bravosierra; disinformation; duncanhunter; generalpace; generalsrevolt; gramsci; hillarymann; iran; iranrumormill; mann; mutiny; pentagon; perfumedprinces; peterpace; treason; unnamed; unnamedsources
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To: FreeAtlanta

I forgot to set the amplitude disgrontifier to "max screed" and busted the dang needle!


41 posted on 02/24/2007 4:55:49 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: FreeAtlanta
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42 posted on 02/24/2007 4:56:14 PM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: zarf
>>>lol. more disinformation.<<<

If you read this carefully, this article hits almost every point that has been previously raised against an attack, and adds a new one - resignations.

Its too perfect a summary.....either the press has fallen hook/line/sinker for the Bush administrations attempt to confuse Iran with disinformation, or......they are complicit!

43 posted on 02/24/2007 4:57:05 PM PST by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: Pokey78

Fine, let them. There are quite a few Colonels that would love to be generals....and lots of 1-stars that would love a second star. Only problem will be; these clowns will start showing up all over the TV morning/Sunday gab-fests..not a pleasant thought.


44 posted on 02/24/2007 4:57:57 PM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Pokey78

I think this is pure BS....


45 posted on 02/24/2007 4:58:04 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: balch3

Yes, the dirty bunch of cowards.
barbra ann


46 posted on 02/24/2007 4:58:40 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: JoeSixPack1

THis looks like wishful thinking on the part of the left to me. Generals generally love war and love attacks.


47 posted on 02/24/2007 4:58:46 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: bnelson44

A muslem in Parliament imagining a talk with a democrat on the armed services committee ...


48 posted on 02/24/2007 4:59:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pokey78
“He is a very serious and a very loyal soldier,” she said.

Mann doesn't know $hit...who calls the CJCS, who is a Marine, a soldier?

49 posted on 02/24/2007 5:00:01 PM PST by Mr.Unique (Why did Lloyd Dobler want Diane Court anyway??)
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To: Jim Robinson

Head FReeper BUMP!


50 posted on 02/24/2007 5:00:53 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Pokey78
If this is true, the military should take these high ranking generals, put them up against a wall, and shoot them. We have civilian control of our military. We must never compromise on that fact.

Of course, it is not true. I said if...

51 posted on 02/24/2007 5:02:00 PM PST by gridlock (Isn't it peculiar that matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
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To: Pokey78
Image hosted by Photobucket.com well, not to worry then, since it's the NAVY that's most likely to get the job...
52 posted on 02/24/2007 5:03:09 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Perdogg

This story is more media propaganda. However, if a couple of generals really should quit, it would take all of 2 seconds to replace them. As they say, if you think you're indispensible stick your finger in a bucket of water, then take it out, and see how fast the hole disappears.


53 posted on 02/24/2007 5:03:20 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: Jim Robinson
Enemy propaganda.

I am inclined to agree. More gobbets from the cut-and-run crowd.

If they would really resign, let them do so now and the services can have their replacements up to speed if and when the need arises.

54 posted on 02/24/2007 5:03:52 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Pokey78

An air attack seems to be the only effective action we could take. A land invasion is probably beyond our current capability. We are at an apparent stalemate in Iraq. However, there is a large amount of pro American sentiment among Iranians. Hence, there is the possibility of an internal uprising.


55 posted on 02/24/2007 5:04:20 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: bnelson44

"a source with close ties to British intelligence said????"

Well, like I'm totally close to like people, ya know, like in Britian, like well they talk that way so I think they're like British, and like they're soooo intellegent, like ya know....


56 posted on 02/24/2007 5:05:17 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Pokey78
Just how many perfumed princes are there in the defense services? Big government can mirror big business where management is, many times, top heavy.

'The most cooks, the worst pottage'.

57 posted on 02/24/2007 5:11:45 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Pokey78
What were the names of those insubordinate turkeys...?
58 posted on 02/24/2007 5:12:10 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Pokey78

What a crock! It's evident things have slowed down in Iraq, now they're making the news.


59 posted on 02/24/2007 5:13:12 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: editor-surveyor
Every three and four star in the pentagon are hand picked by Rummy. THERE are no Clinton 3's or 4's left.
60 posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:00 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks, so few circuses.)
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