Mysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and Mary

The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | February 24, 2007 | By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem

[wtc911]

Well then, I guess I'd better rethink my entire life to fit your view.

Have a good life, see you on the other side.

[spectre]

Well, dog..It's what we Catholics are taught.

"The Assumption - Catholics believe that at her death, Mary was taken into heaven body and soul".

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[wildbill]

Actually, I think Dr. Tabor is a doctor of theology and a believer himself.

He doesn't tread on the theological issues, but his work, heavily annotated, fills in some of the 'lost' or overlooked issues of Jesus' early years and his family relations.

But if you aren't interested in books that might reinforce faith with buttressing information from contemporary religious and historical writings and archeological findings, it's OK by me.

[TexanToTheCore]

Amos Kloner is the main pusher of the James Ossuary and his conclusions should be taken with a grain of salt. It was found to be of modern design and execution.


Assuming the ossuaries are real, they most likely are the remains of a well to do family of Christans who named their family after the family of Jesus. They may have also changed their names to honor the family of Jesus.

The one in ten million statement is utter poppycock. There is no data on which to build any statistic.

[phillyfanatic]

Every year, surely around Easter and Christmas, the MSM finds new stories disputing the claims of the Bible, Jesus and the truth of Christianity. Then books and movies are made; usually on USA or ABC to keep us awake at night. I can't wait till Jesus does come again and wakes up the NYTimes editorial staff!

[July4th64]

I agree.

For one thing, the bones of Jesus Christ would show rather obvious signs of crucifixion. I don't see any mention of that.

Conveniently, this discovery was made "a quarter of a century ago." Also conveniently, the bones disappeared. Sounds like a lame excuse for another church conspiracy theory.

I'll stick with the disciples of Christ. 11 of 12 died gruesomely claiming Christ rose. They were there and they should know.

I don't think or anyone will die for this tale.

[Paulus Invictus]

Touche! You are correct. His real name was Y'shua. Jesus is the Latinized name of Iesu, the Greek version.

[Paulus Invictus]

Can't be! They are my gardeners and maid and they are good!

[Tanniker Smith]

Here we go: some fuel for the fire, courtesy of director James Cameron, on "Titanic" fame:

http://time-blog.com/middle_east/"

February 23, 2007 6:55 
Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
Posted by Tim McGirk | Comments (318) | Permalink | Trackbacks (0) | Email This 

Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The 
Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the 
ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, 
Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus 
wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- 
and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. 
And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's 
supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers 
were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the 
industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of 
Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old 
cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and 
the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 
years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. 
They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa 
and Judah, son of Jesua.

Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner 
didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. 
His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't 
afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common 
Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles 
away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for 
centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at 
the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, 
after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that 
a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of 
God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have 
amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence 
and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus 
and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the 
impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris 
blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) 
Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at 
which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of 
Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News 
about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery 
Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's 
Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East 
(check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in 
the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous 
profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage 
Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers 
and skeptics. Stay tuned. 

--Tim McGirk/Jerusalem

Enjoy
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[Tanniker Smith]

and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics.

heh-heh, heh-heh, "titanic debate", oh those clever writers at Time!

[TheStickman]

Not a myth.

[A.A. Cunningham]

That sound you hear is the Church Fathers laughing at your ignorance.

Many other things you won't find in Scripture:

The word Bible.

The word Trinity.

The word Incarnation.

Plus this gem:

"But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." John 21:25

Any idea what copy of Sacred Scripture Jesus used?

[A.A. Cunningham]

As was the doctrine of Mary as a co-redemptrix from sin by your last pope.

You're on a roll, gomer. No such thing occurred during Pope John Paul II's Papacy.

By the way, Einstein, co-redemptrix is Latin, the English translation being the woman with the Redeemer. In no way does said description of the Blessed Mother elevate her to a level equal to Jesus. However, the facts never get in the way of fools like you with slightly below room temp IQs ignorantly flapping their gums.

[grey_whiskers]

Whether there is or not, my Bible tells me not to be a "stumbling block" to other Christians. Since I don't believe it matters to our salvation one way or the other whether one believes Mary's body ascended to Heaven, it's no big deal to me. Who am I to judge another's servant? My best friend is a 7th Day Adventist. While 7th dayers are strictly biblical in their faith they believe in keeping the Old Testament dietary habits and the Saturday Sabbath. Although I believe Jesus' new covenant releases us from this part of the law, I don't argue with him over it. In fact, when we are together I try not to eat pork or shellfish so as not to be a stumbling block to him. He is devout child of Christ and it would be a sin for me to do anything which could interfere with that.

We need more of this attitude around.

(Romans 14, eh?)

Cheers!

[A.A. Cunningham]

I doubt you know anything about the theology contained in Munificentissimus Deus.

[sonic109]

Thats what we need to do , discredit this "research" on a scientific basis not on a religious one. Do we have any DNA expersts here of FR? This story sound slik ejunk science at best.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Can you provide any Scriptural reference describing the deaths of all the Apostles?

[A.A. Cunningham]

Where in Sacred Scripture can you find the word Bible?

[Rodney King]

I'm a Calvinistic Baptist.

Why bother arguing then? Your salvation or lack thereof has been pre-determined.

[Rodney King]

I'd have to see it in the Bible, chapter and verse. Otherwise it's not "official".

It's not in scripture that Jesus ever took a dump. Does that mean he didn't ever take one?