Posted on 02/24/2007 1:19:08 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Chinese Navy's latest wartoys.
Interesting color.
not bad..gun, point defence,sat com, ssm x 16, pt def, chopper
Helipads on each one.
Are they real ..?? They look like toys to me .. they seem too streamlined for real ships.
Maybe these are just the versions they make for Wholesale Tool and Walmart.
Of course! Nothing but the best stolen American technology.
First picture ship is different from pictures two and three. Notice first destroyer has two stacks.
Last picture is faux.
Second ship back, 169. Notice the hull number doesn't advance forward of the gun, as on the other two. Plus the numbers don't seem to bend with the chine of hull.
Way back ships, the hull number are almost in the water.
Fishing reefs for the waters around Taiwan!
Notice in the first picture, the shadow on the building (upper left of picture) and no shadow of the ship's outline on the building behind it.
Sure looks like a cut and paste to me.
Wonder where they got the Gas Turbine technology?
Proof that the New Democrat Third Way "progressives" and their Republican "free trader" partners are achieving great success in "raising everyone's boat." Congratulations!
Pretty much nothing American in the PLAN surface Navy. Hulls and most major weapons systems are Russian, while the electronics and the AAW suite are French.
They may not look like much now but if not for the US Navy, this could be a picture of the Japanese Imperial Navy, thirsting to OWN the pacific ocean. We underestimated the japs 70 years ago, and paid dearly for it...
They're legitimate hull numbers of ships that actually exist and that appear to be of the correct class.
Well, you have to keep in mind that pic is of EVERY remotely modern destroyer the Chinese have.
I'd argue the Japanese are more underrated now than they were in 1941. Plenty of pics of the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Force that are more impressive.
Not quite every vessel, it is missing 7 more destroyers.
The boats in the ship are 2 x type 052B, 1 x 052C, 1 x 051B, and the final two in the background are likely the 2 x type 052's. What is missing in the photograph is the other 052C, pennant 170 which was undergoing a refit at the time, the two type 051C's (one shown in the first picture), and the four Sovremennys.
The PLAN has a total of 13 modern destroyers.
Continuing, in the last 5-6 years the Chinese have built 78 new, modern major combatants and added them to their fleet. As a comparison, in that same time, we have built 46 new major combatants and added them to our fleet. But the kicker is this: In that same time period, we have decommissioned 49 major combatants, many of them with 10-15 years service life remaining (Spruance Class Destroyers, LA Class subs, Tara Class Amphibs, etc.). That means we have a net loss of three major combatants.
The chinese have decomissioned none of their vessels so they have increased their fleet by 78 vessels.
That trend , if continued (and it looks like it will continue), means the PLAN will rapidly catch up with and pass our US Navy in the Western Pacific in the next few years. IMHO, it dare not be discounted, scoffed at, or ignored.
I will have my 2007 update to my site that focuses on this ready within the next week or so. In the mean time, go there and look at the other updates and information. Their build rate and the shear numbers of new, modern classes of vessels if phenominal...and we are the main source of funding.
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