FReep this poll: Giuliani vs Duncan Hunter

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[Jim Robinson]

FReep this poll: Giuliani vs Duncan Hunter:

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=173

[nopardons]

LOL..............I see that you too saw how badly misspelled Zsa Zsa's name was. <,p> It was her sister, Eva, who was in "GREEN ACRES".

The other Gabor sister, Magda, had long since left acting.

[La Enchiladita]

I was in diapers when Truman was prez.... no wisecracks, please.

:)

[Delphinium]

When will you admit that you are not a conservative?

I didn't ask everyone that question, just repeating a question that has been asked to her over and over including from the site owner. Some people have over exposed themselves as what they really are.

As Rush Limbaugh wrote about the other day, there are many trying to redfine the word "conservative":

"RUSH: While I was gone, I noticed something. With all these Republican candidates for president -- you have Giuliani; you have Romney who got in today. McCain. I can't even remember them all. There's a distinct effort, there's a big move underway now to redefine conservatism in a way that fits the candidacy of one or the other of these candidates. They are conflating electability with a serious discussion of conservatism. Much of it's coming from the New York and DC elite. It reached its zenith with a column from George Will that I saw Sunday, in which there's a big swipe taken at Reaganism and that conservatives' view of Reaganism is a waste of time, that Reagan was one man at one time and never will be again.

It's a stunning, stunning piece -- and all these things together amused me, because have you ever seen liberalism wring its hands and try to redefine itself to fit one particular candidate? Liberals don't make excuses for who they are. They do their best to hide who they are, and they do their best to camouflage who they are with different names (like "progressives" or "moderates" or what have you), but they never have any serious disagreements over the fundamental principles of liberalism. Yet here we go with the people on the conservative side now trying to fit each one of these candidates into what is a conservative by redefining conservatism to fit the candidate, and this is important to me because it ought to be the other way around. If conservatives are serious about a conservative candidate, then the candidate ought to have to be conservative, not the other way around, and I see that happening."

I don't think you can do a litmus test.

That is a democrat phrase/talking point.

If I'm a social conservative who supports limited government and fiscal responsibility, yada yada, but opposes the death penalty for some reason, am I not a conservative? If I'm an atheist who supports all the conservative positions but doesn't think public prayer in school is a good idea, or at least worth fighting for, am I not a conservative?

We aren't judging everyone here, this is about Rudy who is in no way a conservative. In fact he is not even moderately moderate. he is a liberal. From Jim Rob:

Here are some of the negatives we've learned about Rudy recently: - pro abortion - pro partial birth abortion - pro taxpayer funded abortion - pro taxpayer funded embryonic stem cell research - pro gay unions (gay marriage) - pro gay rights - pro gay agenda - pro gun control - pro suing gun manufacturers - pro illegal alien - pro sanctuary cities - pro environmentalism - pro human caused fixable global warming (pro Kyoto?) - pro McCain-Feingold - wants to close loopholes to make it stronger

Additional suspicions:

- experience as a government prosecutor makes him pro government - fights crime by restricting rights - says he's a problem fixer - suspect he'll use BIG government solutions - suspect he's pro developer vs private property rights - eminent domain - suspect he'll be eager to please his liberal friends, press et al (there goes the war)

Why would a conservative in any degree promote that?

I agree about the differing opinions, including those who are liberal. It would be boring, and no fun without them

[Fierce Allegiance]

as is posting about another member without including their nic in the header.

I've got ten bucks that says you can't show me where that rule is posted. HAHA, lol! Besides, the truth is an absolute defense.

[La Enchiladita]

We possibly could have had a decent Governor here in California if the GOP would have supported McClintock.

AMEN!!! The RNC, CRP, et al have been noticeably delinquent in supporting conservative candidates across the country.

Now, tell me again --- anyone? --- WHO is fracturing the Grand Old Party?

[fightu4it]

I don't like the choices. Where is Newt?????

[M. Thatcher]

I've got ten bucks that says you can't show me where that rule is posted.

It's not a "rule," but I can confirm it is indeed longstanding tradition here; it's just simple good form.

[La Enchiladita]

California Republican Duncan Hunter held a press conference to discuss the treatment of detainees at the island jail, and spent his opening statement going over a daily menu for prisoners that included oven-fried chicken and fresh fruit.

"This is what Osama bin Laden's bodyguards will eat several times a week. Lemon chicken, rice, broccoli, carrots, bread and two types of fruit," Hunter said, inviting a reporter to come eat with him.

[Guenevere]

I understand your point.....I respect your thoughts.

But many at FR, myself included...believe Duncan Hunter is the man who would strengthen this great nation and keep it from the weakness you fear.

And surely you are reading what Jim Robinson thinks about RG.

I am very surprised that some on this forum, by their tone/words....seem to care little about his preferences....and seem to forget he is a man of character and insight.

I am surprised at the disrespect some show to him.

His patience with some is amazing to me.

[La Enchiladita]

Just make sure you check out the debate coming up in April to see Hunter in action

The first I heard of this... where will it be held? Thanks.

[Fierce Allegiance]

nopardons would get such respect if she deserved it. No such luck though. Cranky hags don't rate in my book, sorry toots.

[M. Thatcher]

nopardons would get such respect if she deserved it. No such luck though. Cranky hags don't rate in my book, sorry toots.

All Freepers "deserve" it. Your response reflects badly on you.

[calcowgirl]

The RNC, CRP, et al have been noticeably delinquent in supporting conservative candidates across the country.

The CRP was busy--working against them. :-(

[Dog Gone]

Why do you think that the 200th time you post the EXACT SAME THING that it will suddenly make a positive difference?

Is there any chance that you might cause someone to say, "I'm sick of those wingnut spammers. I'll be for whomever they're against."?

I'm frankly sick of you and all your cohorts who insult our intelligence by proving your lack of intelligence by shoving the same stuff on every thread.

STOP THE SPAM.

We've seen it. We've read it. We've evaluated it. Quit proving how unimaginative you are.

[Fierce Allegiance]

No, respect is earned. nopardons gets none from me, ans is just a mean, cranky poster. One of her fellow rudy-lovers even called her FR's meanest poster. She brings little to the table but nastiness. I'm surprised her post to me was a civil as it was, but then it's still early and the booze or whatever probably hasn't kicked in yet.

[Kevmo]

Why don't you just show us where you got flamed? It should be interesting reading.




I don't think her paulat's post was a flame.
You're a liar.

Now remember, you can't get upset about me calling you a liar. After all, it's not a flame. ;)



To: MEGoody
I've been flamed pretty hard by Rudy supporters, particularly those who are pro-aborts.
That's a lie. Not on FR. Prove it.

[Fierce Allegiance]

Good, true and informative post. Watch the others go spaz over you posting rudy truth.

[Fierce Allegiance]

Your response reflects badly on you.

Your support of FR's nastiest poster reflects badly on you, btw.

[M. Thatcher]

Regardless of whether you feel like it, a courtesy ping to any poster discussed IS expected on FR.

And when it comes to nastiness, your "the booze or whatever" smear takes the cake.

[Dog Gone]

- experience as a government prosecutor makes him pro government -

What other kind of prosecutor is there? By your definition, anyone who runs for public office is pro-government.

Like that's a bad thing. You'd prefer there be NO government?