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PARENT GROUPS ASK MARYLAND TO STOP NEW SEX ED LESSONS
Parents and Friends of ExGays and Gays ^ | 2/23/07 | PFOX

Posted on 02/23/2007 12:38:55 PM PST by dcnd9

PARENT GROUPS ASK MARYLAND TO STOP NEW SEX ED LESSONS Neutral Unisex Bathroom Created for Cross-dressing Student

Montgomery County, Maryland – Three parent organizations are asking the Maryland State Board of Education to halt the new sex ed curriculum approved by the Montgomery County, Maryland Board of Education (BOE). Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX), Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum (CRC), and Family Leader Network have filed an appeal requesting Maryland to stay Montgomery County Public School’s sex ed plans.

The newly approved curriculum, entitled "Respect for Differences in Human Sexuality," promotes cross-dressers, homosexuals, transgenders, bisexuals, the intersexed, and other non-heterosexuals. It teaches children about “coming out” as gay, “gender identity” for men who think they’re women and vice-versa, and “homophobia” as a label for anyone who disagrees.

In one lesson, a boy begins to wear dresses to school, calls himself “Portia,” and wants to be known as a girl. The principal gives him a key to a private restroom and a new student ID identifying him as a girl. “Although transgenderism is considered a gender identity disorder by the American Psychiatric Association, the lesson plan fails to recommend counseling for students with gender confusion,” said Regina Griggs, PFOX Executive Director. “Instead, it implies that schools should create new unisex bathrooms for cross-dressing students.”

The lesson also refers to “Portia” as a ‘she’ when the law and biology classify ‘her’ as a “he.” “This gender bending forces students to acknowledge ‘Portia’ as a female when he is not and creates gender confusion for children,” said Griggs. “This flawed educational policy is not based on medical or scientific facts.”

Despite repeated appearances by former homosexuals and a former transgender before the BOE, the Board voted to exclude ex-gays from the lesson plans although gays, transgenders, and the intersexed are included and taught to students. “Why do the lesson plans censor ex-gays when every other sexual orientation is discussed and supported?” asked Griggs. “The BOE violates its own sexual orientation non-discrimination policy by choosing which sexual orientations it favors based on politics and not science. Its discriminatory actions contribute to the intolerance and open hostility faced by the ex-gay community.”

PFOX was a member of the curriculum committee representing the ex-gay community, yet the BOE voted to teach students that it is normal to change your sex (transgender) but not normal to change your unwanted same-sex attractions (former homosexual). “The lesson plans instruct students that homosexual orientation is innate and inborn, despite testimony by former homosexuals before the BOE and all contrary scientific research,” explained Griggs.

“The lesson plans are entitled “Respect for Differences in Human Sexuality,” yet the ex-gay community receives no respect and is deliberately left out of the curriculum,” Griggs said. “The actions of the Montgomery County Board of Education are discriminatory, endanger children, and are politically motivated.”

“What happens in Montgomery County will happen to the rest of Maryland, so it is imperative to stop this ‘sex ed’ program now before it is fully implemented,” said Griggs. Concerned Maryland residents can take action at http://www.mcpscurriculum.org/take_action.shtml

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A copy of this news advisory is available online at: http://pfox.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=155#155


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: exgays; forthechildreninc; glsen; gsa; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; perversion; publikskoolz; samesexattraction; schools
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To: LtdGovt
You're still obfuscating and you still have no credibility.

Point out the flaws in what I've posted. Go ahead. Do it. You can't and you know it, and now everybody knows it.

141 posted on 02/27/2007 11:47:55 AM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: LtdGovt
Enviornment plays a huge role.

Yes, it does.

But so do genes.

No, they don't. If you really think genes play a huge role then you should have no problem supporting your statement. The problem is, no credible scientist agrees with you.

142 posted on 02/27/2007 11:53:06 AM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Judith Anne
as a re-tread

It's just a matter of time...

143 posted on 02/27/2007 11:59:35 AM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: william clark
What you'll find is that, before homosexuality became politicized and was being considered objectively, the same types of therapies used by these "religious" groups were being utilized decades ago in a wholly secular manner, with very comparable results.

Indeed! I used to have bookmarked a number of sites that referenced the material you mention above. Unfortunately, the websites have been revamped and I cannot find the references. But yes, helping homosexuals change and leave the lifestyle has been going on for some time, and not always from religious organizations.

144 posted on 02/27/2007 12:05:52 PM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: LtdGovt; scripter
there is a great deal of science to support ID and, in turn, refute evolution.

as an aside, I read through all this thread and I see that you have many different discussions with many people where you ask for evidence. Yet, the claims you support (or deny, with regard to others support) are not supported in any way by evidence on your part.

The only comment that even resembles justification is the comment I am responding to.. No, fact. People who doubt the theory of evolution may be spiritual masters, but they're not in the know when it comes to science. To me this is more of a thinly veiled dig at scripter than it is proof of anything.

For someone who demands so many articles/peer reviewed journals for proof, it would seem that you would be the first to voluntarily provide such articles, and yet... nothing. Scripter provided a great many links which you refused to read or looked at and completely discounted as propaganda pieces.

I believe there is something about a pot and a kettle that applies here.

145 posted on 02/27/2007 12:08:54 PM PST by thehumanlynx (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke)
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To: thehumanlynx

scratch that, it is not veiled at all.


146 posted on 02/27/2007 12:11:29 PM PST by thehumanlynx (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke)
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To: massgopguy

Jolsonophobia?


147 posted on 02/27/2007 12:13:09 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: thehumanlynx
What's interesting is he made the claim of showing his superior morals by refusing to make personal attacks. Ha!

And since I don't buy the theory of evolution, one of his attempts at changing the subject, he questions my judgment—a personal attack. He's not interested in learning anything because he already knows everything, or so he appears to write.

Pot.
Kettle.
Black.
Indeed.

148 posted on 02/27/2007 12:20:56 PM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Judith Anne
I feel no obligation to prove known facts to you.

And yet you were saying that this science is so novel that there is no comprehensive overview. What is it? If these facts are well known, they you will have no problem citing a book. If these supposed facts are still under dispute, then you can cite articles from journals. In any case, I will be generous. Your inability to cite any source, has been stunning. An assertion on your part doesn't make a fact.

Good day.

I thought as much. Some time ago, you said that you were willing to discuss this matter further, to help people see who is right. But now that you're asked to produce evidence, you run pale and refuse to discuss the matter in any detail. What a surprise.
149 posted on 02/27/2007 2:41:42 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: scripter
You're still obfuscating and you still have no credibility.

The two tics converge. I shouldn't have mentioned them.

Point out the flaws in what I've posted. Go ahead. Do it.

There is a host of replies to your posts you haven't responded to, except by complaining about alleged obfuscation.

No, they don't. If you really think genes play a huge role then you should have no problem supporting your statement. The problem is, no credible scientist agrees with you.

You can look at the studies are done, comparing identical twin brothers and nonidentical twin brothers (Bailey & Pillard 1991, Archives of General Psychiatry 48 p. 1089-1096; Gladue 1994, Current Directions in Psychological Science 6 p. 150-154).
150 posted on 02/27/2007 2:49:01 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: thehumanlynx
For someone who demands so many articles/peer reviewed journals for proof, it would seem that you would be the first to voluntarily provide such articles, and yet... nothing. Scripter provided a great many links which you refused to read or looked at and completely discounted as propaganda pieces.

I'll take a look at studies and articles when they're done in an objective manner, something I don't expect from organisations like the Wal-Mart hating AFA.
151 posted on 02/27/2007 2:50:49 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: scripter
And since I don't buy the theory of evolution, one of his attempts at changing the subject, he questions my judgment—a personal attack.

No, because your judgement is something that is relevant to the discussion. If you make outrageous claims about one subject, it's quite likely that you would make them about another subject.

He's not interested in learning anything because he already knows everything, or so he appears to write.

In fact, I've been the one most careful not to accept anything unless there is factual evidence for it. You, on the other hand, claim to be an expert. I point out that it's not that simple, and that you don't really know what you're talking about.

By the way, you need to ping people when you're talking about them. But we already know you think that talking about people behind their backs is moral, dont you?
152 posted on 02/27/2007 2:53:42 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LtdGovt


Scientific truth is ????


153 posted on 02/27/2007 3:23:56 PM PST by dcnd9
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To: LtdGovt
you pointed to one, that you didnt like because it is published on an AFA page. Not giving it much of a chance in my opinion.

As a matter of curiousity, how much responsibility do you believe genes play in someones homosexuality? Is it so much that they cannot help it?

154 posted on 02/27/2007 5:08:37 PM PST by thehumanlynx (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke)
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To: LtdGovt; thehumanlynx; Judith Anne; dcnd9; william clark
For those I've pinged, take a look at what LtdGovt uses to support his position.

As for your host of replies, I encourage you or anybody to point them out. I'll be waiting but I won't be holding my breath.

Wow. You finally provided a reference. Unfortunately for you I'm familiar with Bailey and Pillard's 1991 work along with their 1993 work. That database I mentioned earlier in the thread? Well, people like yourself, who pretend they know what they're talking about but really have a profound ignorance on the subject of homosexuality; that database is your worst enemy.

In both studies Bailey and Pillard advertised in homosexual publications and then had those who responded recruit their friends. Whoops. Besides that, their study on twins doesn't support your claim that genes play a huge role in homosexuality, and Bailey and Pillard would be the first to tell you that. Obviously you don't know anything about their study. And if you do and you call it objective science, well then we all know where your agenda is... as if we didn't already know.

The 1994 Gladue cite is in reference to the biopsychology of sexual orientation and says nothing remotely close to genes playing a huge part. You haven't read this study either. As all those who came before you, you must have pulled this information from the internet somewhere without knowing the content.

Gladue did make an appropriate statement for you: "If research is buried it will only come back to bite us later." You've been bit, or better, caught, by studies that don't support your position.

Even though you tried to support your position, this is more obfuscation.

155 posted on 02/27/2007 5:19:22 PM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: LtdGovt
If you make outrageous claims about one subject, it's quite likely that you would make them about another subject.

You're just full of logical fallacies.

By the way, you need to ping people when you're talking about them.

That might mean something if you mattered, but you don't. I've been here nearly 7 years and you haven't even been here 7 weeks. I have a reputation for verifying everything where you, well, you just obfuscate.

156 posted on 02/27/2007 5:19:55 PM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: thehumanlynx
you pointed to one, that you didnt like because it is published on an AFA page. Not giving it much of a chance in my opinion.

He called it propaganda. What he didn't comment on, and can't, is all the supporting documentation for the AFA articles here

The above is the old small caliber ammunition we have to support the AFA articles. I haven't bothered pulling out the big guns.

As a matter of curiousity, how much responsibility do you believe genes play in someones homosexuality?

He's on record as saying genes play a huge role.

In post 10 he said: It probably is a combination of genetics and environment.

In post 128 he said: Environment plays a huge role. But so do genes.

His statement in post 10 is correct. His statement about genes in post 128 is incorrect and not supported by science. Not even scientists who are homosexual support his position because they understand linkage and association.

157 posted on 02/27/2007 5:36:07 PM PST by scripter (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: scripter; LtdGovt
ah, i see he has commented already. As I've said many times here and in my discussions in real life, I have no doubt that certain folks are more susceptible to the temptation into homosexual behaviour, just as some are weak against pornography or lying or alcohol or . . . Everyone has there struggles, BUT that does not excuse the action. The gay folks and the sympathizers desparately want to have an excuse for their actions, it will NOT come to pass.

They sexualize everything, hippy-esque if it feels good - do it nonsense.

I swear, I cannot believe that such a small segment of society that choose to engage in this activity warrant such special attention.

158 posted on 02/27/2007 8:52:05 PM PST by thehumanlynx (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke)
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To: scripter

ps. I believe I will be contacting the Hunter campaign very soon. You gotta like a conservative that plainly spells out his conservative views and they are *gasp* actually CONSERVATIVE.


159 posted on 02/27/2007 8:53:55 PM PST by thehumanlynx (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke)
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To: scripter


LtdGovt uses typical liberal double speak. He has nothing!


160 posted on 02/28/2007 5:43:12 AM PST by dcnd9
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