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Now, don't go all goofy - this is real history, and arabic math predates mo-ham-head by at least 500 years, even though this article talks most about post 700 AD
1 posted on 02/22/2007 6:15:54 PM PST by xcamel
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Thanks for the topic xcamel, thanks to you and Jedi Master Pikachu for the ping. Not a whole-list ping, just adding to the catalog.
Islam Faces a New Era
by Munawar A. Anees
1999, Civilization Magazine
Today's Muslim world is also being betrayed by a similar intellectual passivity regarding the Internet, the dynamo of the next Renaissance. While the French fight an uphill battle to prevent English from laying siege to the French-speaking world via the Net, none of the major Muslim languages plays a major role in this huge knowledge machine. Equally conspicuous is the absence of Muslim countries from one of history's greatest scientific endeavors, the Human Genome Project. Islam is not intrinsically opposed to ideals of justice, equality, and human dignity. It is folly to assume that technological sophistication or economic prosperity need weaken, or run counter to, religious belief. Meanwhile, at some distance from the ivory tower lies the grim reality of much of the Muslim world: poverty; mass illiteracy; want of basic hygiene and primary health facilities; lack of fundamental liberties of religion and speech; little protection from state persecution.
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227 posted on 02/22/2007 10:43:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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And what they fail to say is that all the captured Pedants were sent to the regional capitals and the more significant Pedants were sent to the home capital.

Nothing was discovered by the muslims. Their captured peoples, given muslim names, gave their people and "culture" its "credance".


228 posted on 02/22/2007 10:44:02 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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...this is real history, and arabic math predates mo-ham-head by at least 500 years, even though this article talks most about post 700 AD

This is real Bullpuckey.

Please, I'm all ears.
Do give me credible, non muslim references and links about the existence of "arabic" math in 100 A.D.

I can hardly wait!

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235 posted on 02/22/2007 11:50:13 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Wrong. The Cosmati brothers of medieval Italy had far more intricate stuff 200 years earlier. Yes they were influenced by Islamic tilings, but also by Byzantine mosaic traditions.
239 posted on 02/23/2007 12:24:43 AM PST by JasonC
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I believe this article is highly inaccurate. When I typed the words geometry and origin into Google I received numerous links. I read the first few, and none of them mentioned anything about Islam. Listed below is one description titled The Origin of Geometry:

This is a difficult question to answer since geometry has been around in one form or another as long as there has been written history. The Egyptians were making use of geometry to build pyramids even in prehistoric times. It was the Greeks, however who first began to rigorously study geometry and try to prove facts about it. Euclid was perhaps the most notable geometer of ancient mathematics and it was he who first axiomatized the subject (carefully defined the concepts crucial to geometry).

I believe you will find that Euclid lived about 1,000 years before Islam enveloped the Arabic world.

245 posted on 02/23/2007 3:55:06 AM PST by Texas Jack
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I have it on good authority that if you add up all the degree angles in the sumptuous geometric star-and-polygon patterns and subtract the total of all the degrees in the decagonal designs and finally divide the result by the total number of degrees in the quasicrystalline carvings, you always arrive at the number 23.
If you then reverse 23 and add 10 (the age of Mohammed's twenty third wife) you then get 42 which, according to the author Douglas Adams, is the meaning of life, the universe and everything.
I know I'm now convinced.
248 posted on 02/23/2007 4:50:52 AM PST by finnigan2
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9 = 18


252 posted on 02/23/2007 6:07:12 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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I'm sure this stunning math breakthrough led to them being able to produce a much better detonator for their latest bomb vests.

Makes the world a better place, I'm sure.


256 posted on 02/23/2007 6:24:44 AM PST by newcthem (Madison doesn't have residents..........only inmates.)
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Lu and Steinhardt in particular cite designs on the Darb-i Imam shrine in Isfahan, Iran, built in 1453.

Designed by recently captured Christians.

260 posted on 02/23/2007 6:45:44 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Math ping!!


270 posted on 02/23/2007 9:46:11 AM PST by SuziQ
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So, these 15th century potters were moonlighting as advanced mathematical theorists....riiight.


285 posted on 02/23/2007 4:15:37 PM PST by Cruising Speed
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More:
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070224/mathtrek.asp
(more clearly written with examples)


287 posted on 02/23/2007 4:52:23 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Now, don't go all goofy - this is real history, and arabic math predates mo-ham-head by at least 500 years, even though this article talks most about post 700 AD

Algebra and zero came from India. The Muslim conquerers tended to look down on actual work, and most of the real work was done by their conquered, second-class citizens (dhimmis).

The Islamic "Golden Age" occured during the period where they had freshly conquered the established civilizations of Babylon, India, and the Eastern Roman Empire. When Islam no longer had fresh supplies of loot and slaves who knew how to run a civilization, their Golden Age came to an end

After that, the Arab race went into a period of decline that was only temporarily reversed when they found themselves in possession of a new source of unearned wealth -- oil

309 posted on 02/25/2007 9:44:13 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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I would like to see them make this break through:

The Muslims believe in the same God as Jews and Christians.

Well, one of the first gift that our God gave us is free will.

If the Sunni and the Shiite believe in this God like they say they do, then who among them has the authority to over ride man's free will?

Just because Sunni's and Shiites see things differently, neither has a mandate to kill the other because they think or act in a different manner.

I think we all have the right to protect ourselves, but we don't have the right to take away free will.

I would like to thank the Lord for blessing me. I am happy that I was born in a free country, where I could come to the Lord freely and upon my own free choice. Amen.
310 posted on 02/25/2007 9:52:33 AM PST by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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Mathematics In Ancient Egypt
Al-Ahram | 1-26-2007
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Africans Invented Arithmetic and Algebra [double bagger barf alert]
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316 posted on 03/02/2007 9:20:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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