Posted on 02/22/2007 7:27:03 AM PST by meg88
hursday, Feb. 22, 2007 8:13 a.m. EST
Rudy Giuliani: 'A Woman Has the Right to Choose' Abortion
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Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani met with firefighters and police officers in this early voting state Wednesday, using the forum to reference the Sept. 11 terror attacks, which earned him national attention.
"The first people that arrive on the scene of the bombing or the anthrax attack ... it's going to be one of your brothers or your sisters or you that gets to do it," the former New York mayor told a crowd of about 200 emergency workers. "Your ability to do it well will once again determine if we save lives - save America."
Giuliani compared firefighters and police to uniformed military personnel and said the federal Department of Homeland Security needs to ensure first responders "have the training and protection you need to defend your country."
Giuliani has a tough road ahead in South Carolina, which is to host the first Southern primaries in 2008. His moderate positions on gun control and support for abortion rights do not sit well with the state's Christian conservatives, who accounted for a third of the 2000 GOP primary vote. Those voters swung heavily to President Bush that year, giving him a 2-1 ratio margin over Arizona Sen. John McCain, who was viewed as soft on abortion.
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On Wednesday, Giuliani reiterated his own position.
"I'd advise my daughter or anyone else not to have an abortion," Giuliani said. "I'd like to see it ended, but ultimately I believe that a woman has the right to choose.
"I believe that you've got to run based on who you are, what you really are and then people actually get a right to disagree with you," he said. "And I find if you do it that way, even people who disagree with you sometimes respect you."
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"We're a tremendous amount of time away from an election," he said. "We haven't even gotten to a primary yet. The best thing we can do now is organize."
© 2007 Associated Press.
BINGO!!!
To what end?
Actual victory by 3rd party candidate?
Assurance of victory to DEM ticket?
Leverage on electorate in Republican primary?
"Directional leverage" on primary winner's ultimate position on issues?
Statement to the world... with little evidence of lasting impact?
There, that's a little better. And I agree with you.
Under curent law a woman does have the right to choose to murder her baby. I wish it were not so and frankly I see nothing about Rudy that says he'd appoint judges to change that.
Not if it kills somebody else. Nobody has a right to murder, and I'm sure Lincoln was not thinking of that. He wouldn't have fought against slavery if that was the way he saw things.
I suppose that's what baby killers would want us to think!
If those are "moderate," what would AP call "liberal"?
To what end?
It's a self-indulgence I don't think I can afford.
It was Lincoln, I believe, that said: "You never have the right to do what is wrong".
Also,
"Some things that are legally right are not necessarily morally right."
and,
"Some men seem to think that as long as they keep out of jail they have a sure chance of getting into heaven."
"But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious Hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own."
-- Abraham Lincoln
Well, at least Rudy is admitting what he believes about abortion. How about the right of the people to bear arms?
I think you need to re-read the quote...
You can keep it in your pants. That's a choice.
The woman can keep her knees together, that's a choice too.
It is so because, although the media focus is directed to immorality and religion, the main federal culprit is that RvW represents the usurpation of citizen voting rights by the Courts.
Ending RvW would not end abortion but, by returning power to the people, the State voters could decide as they do with alcholol, drugs, gambling and prostitution.
It's only philosophical to those who've been born. It's only philosophical because it's out of sight and out of mind.
I agree with you. As long as thee are people that put the abortion issue above and beyond everything else, either for or against, then this country will rot from lack of attention to other, critical issues. The plain fact is that no president is ever going to be able to change the current abortion situation in this country. Even with supreme court nominations, I doubt there will be a polar shift where women and doctors go to jail for abortion or going to states where it would be permitted. Frankly, I think Rudy did a fantastic job leading NY after 9/11, probably a bit better than Bush did, and he even cut taxes in a tax and spend liberal bastion.
Not to go off topic, but in Lincoln's own words, he did not go to war to end slavery. He went to war to peserve the Union, and prevent the South from forming thier own Nation.
And please note that I am in that part of Alabama, mostly made up of pioneer yeoman farmers, not plantation owners, who opposed succession. If they were allowed to succede from Alabama, they might have done so (just like West Virginia), but Alabama kept them (forceably, when necessary) in the state. Just like Lincoln did with the Union. There was a "war" here amongst the local draft elegible young men and the sherrifs and recruiters over who had to serve. Several people were killed on each side.
If it's true that Giuliani said this just yesterday, then it is impossible for me to vote for him. Impossible.
No person has the right to end the life of another person unless their own life is seriously, legitimately threatened by that other person.
There is no right to choose. None. Nada.
Instead we have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Without life, those other rights are unimportant. Dead people don't worry much about liberty and happiness.
Every scrap of scientific evidence indicates that the child in the womb is a human life.
Like the one cartoon of a young woman speaking to an abortion doctor says: "If it's not life, then why do I need an abortion?"
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