Posted on 02/22/2007 7:27:03 AM PST by meg88
hursday, Feb. 22, 2007 8:13 a.m. EST
Rudy Giuliani: 'A Woman Has the Right to Choose' Abortion
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Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani met with firefighters and police officers in this early voting state Wednesday, using the forum to reference the Sept. 11 terror attacks, which earned him national attention.
"The first people that arrive on the scene of the bombing or the anthrax attack ... it's going to be one of your brothers or your sisters or you that gets to do it," the former New York mayor told a crowd of about 200 emergency workers. "Your ability to do it well will once again determine if we save lives - save America."
Giuliani compared firefighters and police to uniformed military personnel and said the federal Department of Homeland Security needs to ensure first responders "have the training and protection you need to defend your country."
Giuliani has a tough road ahead in South Carolina, which is to host the first Southern primaries in 2008. His moderate positions on gun control and support for abortion rights do not sit well with the state's Christian conservatives, who accounted for a third of the 2000 GOP primary vote. Those voters swung heavily to President Bush that year, giving him a 2-1 ratio margin over Arizona Sen. John McCain, who was viewed as soft on abortion.
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On Wednesday, Giuliani reiterated his own position.
"I'd advise my daughter or anyone else not to have an abortion," Giuliani said. "I'd like to see it ended, but ultimately I believe that a woman has the right to choose.
"I believe that you've got to run based on who you are, what you really are and then people actually get a right to disagree with you," he said. "And I find if you do it that way, even people who disagree with you sometimes respect you."
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"We're a tremendous amount of time away from an election," he said. "We haven't even gotten to a primary yet. The best thing we can do now is organize."
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That should have been a response to 230, not 231.
To be realistic... government can and does take away life, and permit the taking of life, all the time. In war, in death penalty cases, in laws that permit people to defend themselves and their property. The right to life is not absolute, obviously. There are lots of situations where value judgments about the value of one life over another are made.
When the constitution was written there were living breathing speaking people in this country that were not acknowledged to have any right to life or liberty. Obviously the framers did not feel it was absolute either. Slaves were not considered to be human beings or citizens covered under the constitution, so I don't think we can argue the framers were intending to cover a fertilized egg or immature growing fetus in the womb.
Feel free to argue we should put into law what was not made clear in the original constitution, but I don't think the constitution covers abortion as it is now. That's why we have all the debate, and the law as it is now.
Proabortion ain't a majority any more, pal.
Well, since he just said this I guess the bots can't yell "old article" again.
Because pregnancy is temporary, abortion is permanent.
Congress has never passed a law saying it is ok for a woman to have an abortion.
Nooo... you simply have to ask yourself two questions. Is it life? If so, is it human? Pwn3d.
Dilation and Curettage is specifically a scraping of the lining of the uterus. In what way would that have ANY effect on a pregnancy in the fallopian tube, which is not within the uterus?
Did you not say, some time ago, that most pro-lifers think that abortion in cases of rape should be allowed? Then why would something that prevents implantation not be allowed in cases of rape?
THANK YOU. I was trying to make this same point to someone on another thread, but you said it much more plainly and clearer than I did. If Giuliani is going to play either (A) ignorant or (B) fast-and-loose with his "interpretation" of the Constitution, then he would be a dangerous disaster as a president. It means he would violate the presidential oath (preserve/protect/defend the Constitution), and it also means he'd be completely unreliable, because one would never know what direction his "interpretations" would lean in....
For someone who was a former federal prosecutor to not understand the basics about our Constitution makes him either stupid or a liar. NOT SOMEONE TO VOTE FOR!
If he's not confused, then he does believe in ending rights.
Could that explain his 2d amendment stance?
What could be his criteria for ending a right?
(a) political expedience (b) polling of ignorant respondents (c) his likes and dislikes
And one other thing: his claim to fame is "mayor." Mayor???
At least governors have had to deal with legislatures.
I'm with those who believe that IF we are to declare abortion is murder... then it's murder in cases of rape too. The fetus is no less human.
I actually think women are more complex than you give us credit for. Rape is trauma, but it's not the only trauma, and any lingering nightmares of the experience will not be made worse because of pregnancy, nor flushed away because of an abortion. Not to be glib, but many women love and care for children every day in this country who were fathered by men (ex husbands, ex boyfriends, etc) they now hate. People are not one dimensional nor unable to separate a child from the event that caused the child.
Get real. That is not even on the radar.
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