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Poll Shows Giuliani Love Across the Country (Rudy Beats All Dem Candidates by at Least 5%)
Gothamist.com ^ | 2.22.07 | Mary Ann Chastain

Posted on 02/22/2007 7:09:41 AM PST by meg88

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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for agreeing with me.


541 posted on 02/22/2007 8:09:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: My GOP

Did you see #466


542 posted on 02/22/2007 8:09:42 PM PST by paulat (I'd rather vote for somebody WHO CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED...than somebody NOT....)
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To: nopardons
not allowing Arafat and Castro free reign...

I have to thank Rudy for that one....:)

543 posted on 02/22/2007 8:10:16 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: nopardons

You forgot supporting strict constructionist judges :)


544 posted on 02/22/2007 8:10:26 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: FreeReign

So should EVERYONE! :-)


545 posted on 02/22/2007 8:11:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: paulat

Oops. I missed that one. Oh well, great minds think alike :)


546 posted on 02/22/2007 8:11:46 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: My GOP

Heck, I can't list EVERYTHING! LOL


547 posted on 02/22/2007 8:11:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, yes, it would be a long list :)


548 posted on 02/22/2007 8:13:38 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: nopardons

I do believe you're the first freeper that I have called a liar in 9 years of freeping. I personally would prefer to see you not get banned because you are proving to be so useful to the Hunter campaign, but that's just my viewpoint. It was fascinating to see JimRob post to you that you should acknowledge you're a liberal. Best of luck in your baiting Jim, we'll see how that goes.


549 posted on 02/22/2007 8:16:43 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: My GOP
"I believe Rudy is the only one that can win. "

Thoughtful people are not likely to support a man with no foreign policy experience, no military experience either in civilian leadership or as a member, and no intelligence experience to lead us in the war against the terrorists...

Of course, idiots ( not 'thoughtful people') are the majority in any election so I'm not ruling Rudy out yet! Many people do know his name, and his present favorable poll numbers ar not to be sneezed at .

But he has even more negatives than just his well-documented liberalism to overcome. The longer he waits to renounce his liberalism and start addressing his other shortcomings the more his campaign looks like a disaster on the way.

550 posted on 02/22/2007 8:30:53 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: FreeReign
Right. Claiming abortion "rights" and gay "rights" are constitutional "rights" while also saying the very real right of the people to keep and bear arms is not is hardly being in favor of individual rights or states rights. Nor is his support for and even wanting to strengthen McCain-Feingold. Nor is his position on global warming. Sorry, the man is not for individual or states rights and his weakness in defending the borders is an outright danger to our national security.
551 posted on 02/22/2007 8:33:37 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: My GOP

'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'
***When the pitcher starts aiming at your head, you start looking at things a little bit differently. At that point, your analogy falls short. For those millions of dead babies, they're getting hit in the head by the pitcher. Their batting average is zero. Once you average that into your team batting average, you'll see why the equation looks different from that perspective.


552 posted on 02/22/2007 8:46:11 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: nopardons
The Constitution has been amended quite a few times, since it was first written. Hence you repeated use of the word "ORIGINALISM" is hardly useful.

Hardly useful? On the contrary. I note your reference to various Amendments. I'll raise you on that. I reject the notion of Stare Decisis as being CONSTITUTIONALLY valid/useful, for it is using that judicial technique, in additional to various Treaties and Executive Orders, that we can see created a penumbra where none was intended to be--and we see Gramsci and his pals and the father of lies crouching in that dark emanating shadow. All of which impacts our culture, drunk or (hopefully) not.

That kind of education is something more people need. Hence, my efforts.
554 posted on 02/22/2007 8:49:15 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: My GOP
"That's not the whole story. In 1996 things were reasonably well and Clinton had some decent approval ratings so there is really no surprise then that Clinton, has the incumbent in favorable conditions, won. In 1980 the country was in a mess and Carter's approval ratings were low. Its no surprise he lost. Bozo the Clown could have beat him. Unless Iraq turns 180 degrees in the next year we are going to be entering an election year with an unpopular incumbent Republican President which favors the Democrats big time. Its going to take a more than John Doe conservative to win next year. I believe Rudy is the only one that can win."

More likely is he's one of the few Republican wannabes who would actually lose to Hillary. He agrees with her across the board on half the issues. Apparently you are saying if Giuliani runs on abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, global warming, illegal immigration, he'll pickup more liberal, democrat and swing votes than he loses to the Christian right and right-wing conservatives?

But I've got to ask why you think liberals, Democrats and the too dumb to vote crowd would vote for him when he's FOR the WAR in IRAQ and FOR the Bush TAX CUTS? Huh? They're not going to vote for the half man half liberal when they can get the WHOLE HOG with Hillary.

555 posted on 02/22/2007 8:51:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Kevmo

"***When the pitcher starts aiming at your head, you start looking at things a little bit differently. At that point, your analogy falls short. For those millions of dead babies, they're getting hit in the head by the pitcher. Their batting average is zero. Once you average that into your team batting average, you'll see why the equation looks different from that perspective."

Your understanding of political realities fall short. we have a pro-life President now but we are still having abortions. No president has the power to stop abortion. Rudy has already said he supports strict constructionist judges like John Roberts. He constantly praised the President for appointing Roberts and Alito. On Hannity Rudy said “I think the appointment of judges that I would make would be very similar to, if not exactly the same as, the last two judges that were appointed. Chief Justice Roberts is somebody I work with, somebody I admire, Justice Alito someone I knew when he was U.S. attorney, also admire. If I had been president over the last four years, I can't think of any, you know, that I'd do anything different with that.” Assuming Rudy gets elected President and appoints Roberts-like justices then maybe Roe v. Wade will get overturned. But even if it does get overturned we know that this won’t stop all abortions. The abortion issue would then revert back to the states and does anyone really think California would outlaw abortions? Thus being pragmatic in our thinking we all know we can't completely stop abortions. Therefore voting solely on this issue very unpragmatic. I hate abortions like everyone else on here but I realize that regardless of how many pro-life presidents we elect, its just not going to stop.


556 posted on 02/22/2007 8:53:46 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rudy will lose very little of the Religious Right. And what he does lose he will pick up many more times in independents, moderates, and consevative Democrats.


557 posted on 02/22/2007 8:55:54 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: Kevmo

There's a long way between now and November '08, but Hunter has an awful lot of ground to make up in that time. Can he raise the money to raise his profile?


558 posted on 02/22/2007 8:55:56 PM PST by karnage
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To: My GOP; Jim Robinson
Rudy will lose very little of the Religious Right. And what he does lose he will pick up many more times in independents, moderates, and consevative Democrats.

In a three-way race Hillary will win. A good conservative "R" nominee will thwart that old Clinton strategy.

559 posted on 02/22/2007 8:59:52 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yesterday from Quinnipiac http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1019
Go find the Rudy-Hillary one on one break down. That says it all.


560 posted on 02/22/2007 9:01:14 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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