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URBAN WITHDRAWAL A Retreat From Big Cities Hurts ROTC Recruiting
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 22, 2007 | GREG JAFFE

Posted on 02/21/2007 9:58:51 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

QUEENS, N.Y. -- The ROTC program at St. John's University here seems perfectly placed for an Army that's desperate for officers who are bilingual and comfortable in foreign lands. About 40 of the 120 students speak second languages, including Turkish, Korean, Mandarin, Hindi, Albanian, and Gujarati.

"I had never even heard of Gujarati until I learned I had a cadet who spoke it," says Lt. Col. Timothy Walter, who heads the program.

But instead of being hailed as a model for the Army's future, the St. John's Reserve Officer Training Corps program is a lonely outpost of diversity. In the past few decades, the Army has pulled its officer training and recruiting programs out of the Northeast and big, ethnically diverse urban centers, choosing to concentrate on campuses in the South and Midwest. [go to charts]

There is no Army ROTC program in the Detroit area, with its large middle-class Muslim population, and only one in Miami and Chicago. In New York City, which produced more than 500 military officers a year in the 1950s and early 1960s, the two remaining ROTC programs last year yielded 34 Army officers.

In contrast, Alabama, which has a student population that is about one-fourth the size of the state of New York, has 10 ROTC programs that last year produced 174 Army officers. The South generates about 40% of all Army officers, according to Pentagon statistics.

An officer's background didn't matter so much when the U.S. was focused on fighting big armies in large conventional battles. These days, though, U.S. success in places like Iraq and Afghanistan hinges on the ability of Army officers to win the trust of a suspicious and often culturally alien population. Officers must court sheiks and warlords and work closely with indigenous security forces.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; newyorkcity; queens; stjohnsuniversity

1 posted on 02/21/2007 9:58:53 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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"Though Army Seeks More Ethnic Officers, It Shuns Northeast"


2 posted on 02/21/2007 9:59:22 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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3 posted on 02/21/2007 10:00:35 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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4 posted on 02/21/2007 10:01:17 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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"..In contrast, Alabama, which has a student population that is about one-fourth the size of the state of New York, has 10 ROTC programs that last year produced 174 Army officers. The South generates about 40% of all Army officers, according to Pentagon statistics..."

Hmmmm. Maybe the South will rise again.

5 posted on 02/21/2007 10:02:09 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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Hmmmm. Maybe the South will rise again.

It's sort of like in the American Civil War where the South had the most well-trained troops and the all the officers from West Point were from Dixie.

6 posted on 02/21/2007 10:05:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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7 posted on 02/21/2007 10:10:58 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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No doubt about it, the South makes more Officers than any other part of the country.


8 posted on 02/21/2007 10:19:17 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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It seems the reporter may have forgetten to mention that ROTC programs and their students in liberal urban areas are greeted with deep hostility and out right attempts to boot them from campus. Things have gotten much worse in the last couple of years.

LA times had an article on this last week.


9 posted on 02/21/2007 10:54:18 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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Like I believe this article. The fact is, cities like San Francisco have kicked the recruiters out, making it illegal for recruiters to approach young men in high schools or colleges throughout the city.

San Francisco politicians and most of the people hate the military. They've kicked the military recruiters out of the city, not the other way around.


10 posted on 02/21/2007 11:35:35 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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bttt


11 posted on 02/22/2007 12:28:22 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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Boston maintains three; Northeastern, BU and MIT. Additionally there are two programs in Rhode Island (a suburb of Massachusetts) and programs at UMass and WPI. Why New York is having tough times is a good question.


12 posted on 02/22/2007 3:54:19 AM PST by MSF BU
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Why New York is having tough times is a good question.

NYC, Upstate, or both?

13 posted on 02/22/2007 3:55:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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You go where the market is.


14 posted on 02/22/2007 3:56:19 AM PST by TADSLOS (Iran is in the IED exporting business. Time to shut them down.)
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Army ROTC Locate School

Plug in New York state. There are still some being offered, though mostly Upstate.

15 posted on 02/22/2007 4:00:01 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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The city primarily. I believe upstate and LI is OK. Hofstra is hanging in anyway. The same is true of recruiting for all services.


16 posted on 02/22/2007 6:32:21 AM PST by MSF BU
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Bump!


17 posted on 02/22/2007 1:47:53 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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