Posted on 02/21/2007 5:53:58 PM PST by NellieMae
I am getting really sick of the Mexican Invasion costing so many jobs in the Southwest Virginia- East Tennessee area. My husband is a brickmason. He is the 5th generation mason in his family- our son is the 6th. Up until just a couple of years ago brickmasons had contractors ringing their phones off of the wall wanting them to do work for them. My husband had to turn down dozens of callers because he couldn't do it all. Things have sure changed . Now, a lot of contractors in this area have gotten dollar signs in their eyes and all that they can see are cheap Mexican workers. My husband has actually had a contractor (real builders that know how to actually build a house are really scarce around here anymore) pull Mexicans on the job that he was working on because he was in such a hurry to get it finished that he couldn't wait the 2 weeks that it would have taken to do the whole job. They will pull in a huge crew and wipe the job out real quick. They waste a lot of brick though (they get paid by the 1000 brick). My husband is a very good, fast mason. His speed and quality is not the issue here. Most of these workers cannot even speak English. It is really aggravating to have lived in a place your entire life and have your livlihood seriously threatened by people that are not supposed to be here in the first place. How do we get rid of this problem? Also, on another related note: It was announced today that there are hundreds of jobs being cut in ANOTHER local factory, Bristol Compressors. I was told several months ago that a construction site in Mexico was marked with a sign that read:" Future site of Bristol Compressors" Is this a coincidence or is there another company by the name of Bristol Compressors?
Of course, you stand by your previous comment, because you have no shame and/or have difficulty with comprehension.
To respond to the first part of your post #401. I see that you would support having the Congress abolish our borders and our immigration laws, but I still question whether the U.S. Constitution provides for them to do that. You cite a section of the Constitution, but perhaps you can post the content that supports your assertion.
In the meantime, I also question how far the Congress and Senate can go against the will of the People. We are the true government, according to our founding documents, and THEY... the 3 branches... are our employees.
You still are not able to address any of the other points I raised. Now, let us see what other silly allegation you can come up with to hurl at me. It should be interesting.
Prove it.
And... what would those "many countries" be?
Durned goobacks!
I said merely that Congress is empowered by the Constitution to make laws regarding immigration. The rest is you making stuff up.
You cite a section of the Constitution, but perhaps you can post the content that supports your assertion.
Since you're obviously too lazy to check for yourself:
"The Congress shall have Power To ... establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" and "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers...."
In the meantime, I also question how far the Congress and Senate can go against the will of the People. We are the true government, according to our founding documents, and THEY... the 3 branches... are our employees.
Well, no. You're describing a democracy. But the United States is a republic, not a democracy. The three branches of government ARE the "true government". They're our representatives, not our employees. They are supposedly held accountable through the electoral process.
If it's really the will of the People that immigration take center stage, then election results should reflect that. Up to now, they have not.
You still are not able to address any of the other points I raised.
Such as?
U.S. International Social Security Agreements
Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Norway, Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden, Spain, France, Portugal, Netherlands, Austria, Finland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Greece, South Korea, Chile, Australia and Japan
Just read any amnesty proposal put for by Congress or the White House. Not one will say "Latin Americans Only".
Thanks for the heads up!
I don't really have a need for those services but I'll keep it in mind in the future.
It's amazing the number of folks on this forum that don't understand this simple concept. Apparently they watch too much MSM.
Okay. I thought maybe you had an excerpt from a specific document we could refer to. I wonder why so many other ethnic groups were protesting last Summer that they would not be included in the Kennedy-McCain amnesty, aka S.2611...?
Thank you. I appreciate that information, and I stand corrected.
Key Provisions of CIRA
Four key provisions of CIRA would result in an explosive increase in legal immigration.
Amnesty for Current Illegal Immigrants: CIRA offers amnesty and citizenship to 85 percent of the nation’s current 11.9 million illegal immigrants. Under the plan, illegal immigrants who have been in the U.S. for five years or more (60 percent of illegals) would be granted immediate amnesty. Illegal immigrants who have been in the country between two and five years (25 percent of illegals) could travel to one of 16 “ports of entry,” where they would receive amnesty and lawful work permits. In total, the bill would grant amnesty to 85 percent of the current illegal immigrant population, or some 10 million individuals.
After receiving amnesty, illegal immigrants would spend six years in a provisional status before attaining LPR status. After five years in LPR status, they would have the opportunity to become naturalized citizens and vote in U.S. elections. As well, the spouses and dependent children of current illegal immigrants would have the right to enter the U.S. and become citizens. There would be no numeric limit on the number of illegal immigrants, spouses, and dependents receiving LPR status; under the amnesty provision, such individuals would not be counted against any other cap or limit in immigration law.
The New “Temporary Guest Worker” Program: CIRA creates an entirely new “temporary guest worker” (H-2C) program. There is nothing temporary about this program; nearly all “guest workers” would have the right to become permanent residents and then citizens.
Foreign workers could enter the U.S. as guest workers if they have a job offer from a U.S. employer. In practical terms, U.S. companies would recruit foreign workers to enter the guest worker program and immigrate to the U.S. Most likely, intermediate employment firms would specialize in recruiting foreign labor for U.S. employers.
Guest workers would be allowed to remain in the U.S. for six years. However, in the fourth year, the guest worker could ask for LPR status and would receive it if he has learned English or is enrolled in an English class. There are no numeric limits on the number of guest workers who could receive LPR status. Upon receiving LPR status, the guest worker could remain in the country permanently. He could become a U.S. citizen and vote in U.S. elections after just five more years.
The spouses and minor children of guest workers would also be permitted to immigrate to the U.S.[6] When guest workers petition for LPR status, their spouses and children would receive it as well. Five years after obtaining LPR status, these spouses could become naturalized citizens. The bill sets no limit on the number of spouses and children who could immigrate under the guest worker program. After workers and their spouses have obtained citizenship, they would be able to bring in their parents as legal permanent residents.
The bill does provide numeric limits on the number of guest workers who can enter the country each year, but the number starts high and then grows exponentially. In the first year, 325,000 H-2C visas would be given out, but if employer demand for guest workers is high, that number could be boosted by an extra 65,000 in the next year. If employer demand for H-2C workers continues to be high, the number of H-2C visas could be raised by up to 20 percent in each subsequent year.
The 20 percent exponential escalator provision allows the number of H-2C immigrants to climb steeply in future years. If the H-2C cap were increased by 20 percent each year, within twenty years the annual inflow of workers would reach 12 million. At this 20 percent growth rate, a total of 70 million guest workers would enter the U.S. over the next two decades and none would be required to leave. While it is unlikely that so many workers would enter, the program does have the potential to bring ten of millions of immigrants to the U.S.
The “guest worker” program, then, is an open door program, based on the demands of U.S. business, that would allow an almost unlimited number of workers and dependents to enter the U.S. from anywhere in world and become citizens. It is essentially an “open border” provision.
Additional Permanent Visas for Siblings, Adult Children, and their Families: The permanent entry of non-immediate relatives—such as brothers, sisters, and adult children—is currently subject to a cap of 480,000 per year minus the number of immediate relatives (the parents, spouses, and minor children of U.S. citizens) admitted in the prior year. CIRA eliminates the deduction for immediate relatives from the cap. This effectively increases the number of non-immediate relatives who could attain LPR status by 254,000 per year.
Additional Permanent Employment Visas: The U.S. currently issues around 140,000 employment-based visas each year. Under CIRA, the U.S. would issue 450,000 employment-based green cards per year between 2007 and 2016. After 2016, the number would fall to 290,000 per year. Under current law, LPR visas going to the spouses and children of workers with employment-based visas are counted against the cap. Under CIRA, these spouses and children would be removed from the cap and given legal permanent residence without numeric limits. Historically, 1.2 dependent relatives have entered the U.S. for each worker under employment-based immigration programs. This means that some 990,000 persons per year would be granted LPR status until 2016 and, after that, 638,000 per year.
Not one word about "LATIN AMERICANS ONLY".
The complainers were most likely in the 15% of illegal’s that would not be eligible, which had nothing to do with race.
Yes, it's amazing. It must be so tiresome for you to go slumming on this humble forum, among the ignorant. I evaluate FReepers not only on knowledge, but on attitude as well, where their hearts are and how they treat other FReepers. Thanks for taking the time to read my ramblings and finding me worthy of your gracious responses. I don't mind learning...
Who are the 15% who would not be eligible? Bingo.
P.S. How are things over at LP?
Oopsy, where's the link on that post...
An absolutely great post!
The 15% are the folks that have not been illegally in the country for at least 2 years, regardless of race. In reality, that 15% would comprise more Latin Americans then any other race or ethnicity.
P.S. How are things over at LP?
I wouldn't know. I left there about 18 months ago.
As do I. Asking for information is always more polite then saying "Prove it".
McLynnan,
I live in Central Texas and in the last two years I've hired a lot of things done around the house, all with English-speaking American-only crews:
Yardwork
Landscape work
Window installation
Window washing (different company from the installers)
Roof repair
Driveway gate
Sprinkler system repair
Attic insulation
My point is, there ARE Americans out there doing the work, if you look around.
My husband has a fence building business. He only hires workers who are 100% legal. If they don't have a social security card and a drivers license, he won't even talk to them. My husband tells people when he gives an estimate that he never hires day-labor or anyone who is not legal. There are a lot of times he gets the work, even when he isn't the lowest bidder. I think his hiring practices are part of the reason why.
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