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Sick of Mexicans Taking our Jobs
Nelliemae

Posted on 02/21/2007 5:53:58 PM PST by NellieMae

I am getting really sick of the Mexican Invasion costing so many jobs in the Southwest Virginia- East Tennessee area. My husband is a brickmason. He is the 5th generation mason in his family- our son is the 6th. Up until just a couple of years ago brickmasons had contractors ringing their phones off of the wall wanting them to do work for them. My husband had to turn down dozens of callers because he couldn't do it all. Things have sure changed . Now, a lot of contractors in this area have gotten dollar signs in their eyes and all that they can see are cheap Mexican workers. My husband has actually had a contractor (real builders that know how to actually build a house are really scarce around here anymore) pull Mexicans on the job that he was working on because he was in such a hurry to get it finished that he couldn't wait the 2 weeks that it would have taken to do the whole job. They will pull in a huge crew and wipe the job out real quick. They waste a lot of brick though (they get paid by the 1000 brick). My husband is a very good, fast mason. His speed and quality is not the issue here. Most of these workers cannot even speak English. It is really aggravating to have lived in a place your entire life and have your livlihood seriously threatened by people that are not supposed to be here in the first place. How do we get rid of this problem? Also, on another related note: It was announced today that there are hundreds of jobs being cut in ANOTHER local factory, Bristol Compressors. I was told several months ago that a construction site in Mexico was marked with a sign that read:" Future site of Bristol Compressors" Is this a coincidence or is there another company by the name of Bristol Compressors?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; appalachia; bds; borders; crimaliens; deliverancerejects; duncanhunter; failertoadapt; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalinvasion; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jobslost; lowerthebarillegals; mexicaninvasion; savage; socialistcons
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To: ffusco

People in their cushy little indoor office jobs have NO idea of the working conditions that a mason has to endure. Where we live it gets very hot in the summer and very cold in the winter. It almost invariably rains right before a foundation has to be put in. This causes the working men to have to lug around in the mud. Boots get pretty heavy after they are caked with mud. Some of the block that my husband has laid has weighed up to 90 pounds a piece. Scaffolding has to be hauled and set up, sometimes several stories high.
Aside from the temperature extremes and mud, there are cracked, sometimes bleeding fingers. It is hard to get help because the work is so hard. You have to pay very well or nobody will hire on.
You have to get used to being out of work quite often because of conditions beyond your control. You have to really love this type of work to last very long at it. Some people will say: Why don't you just give up and find another way to make a living. When you are 50 years old and have done this your entire adult life it would be difficult to start all over again from scratch. Illegal workers should not even be in the picture. PERIOD.


341 posted on 02/22/2007 6:06:35 AM PST by NellieMae
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To: Shimmer128

A-Men.

When are you running for office, Shimmer?


342 posted on 02/22/2007 6:10:35 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: Shimmer128

Double Amen!!


343 posted on 02/22/2007 6:15:58 AM PST by NellieMae
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To: RockinRight
Oh no BabyBoy, I vote for you
344 posted on 02/22/2007 6:17:43 AM PST by Shimmer128 (An optimist is the human personification of spring.)
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To: RockinRight

I'd like to see some type of organized revolt against this invasion of our country.
Non-violent mind you. What can we do? Some say vote the scoundrels out. It seems that after a good person hits Washington that they have a surgical procedure to remove their backbone. Who can we trust anymore?


345 posted on 02/22/2007 6:20:04 AM PST by NellieMae
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To: taxed2death
Is that "capitalism? No.

Well, actually, yes it is capitalism. In fact, it's as close to real capitalism as the American labor market will allow: willing workers and willing employers reaching a wage agreement, with minimal interference by the government.

The illegality of the workers' residence is treated as a mere formality -- and is obviously considered an acceptable risk by both parties.

The other stuff you list is, as I mentioned, government interference in the labor transaction.

Now, before you slobber off on another tirade, let me say that I don't support illegal immigration, nor do I support uncontrolled immigration. But I do find that an honest assessment of the facts is key to understanding why illegal immigration is the problem it has become.

Which brings us to the remainder of your comment ... you might get more traction if you started trying to communicate like a rational adult.

346 posted on 02/22/2007 6:31:15 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Cymbaline
They're breaking the law. Period. I have no interest in whether it costs less only that they're breaking the law.

What's your view on Amnesty? I'm betting you're aggressively opposed to it -- which would mean that it's really not the "legality" of their presence that bothers you.

347 posted on 02/22/2007 6:33:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: philetus
You're an investment banker who screws little investors by getting rich using their money?

You sound like Bernie Sanders. Or Karl Marx.

348 posted on 02/22/2007 6:34:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: NellieMae

I don't see the word "illegal" anywhere in your complaint. Is this about illegal workers or cheaper workers?


349 posted on 02/22/2007 6:35:30 AM PST by zook
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To: zook

illegal


350 posted on 02/22/2007 6:36:11 AM PST by NellieMae
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To: r9etb

Here's a thought. Want to reduce illegal immigration? Do away with minimum wage laws. Then employers will be free to hire all those Americans willing to do these low wage jobs.

(Please note the trace of sarcasm above!)


351 posted on 02/22/2007 6:39:09 AM PST by zook
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To: NellieMae

Ok. That's kind of an important point. Thanks. I have great respect for good masons. I can never figure out how they manage to know exactly how much mortar to slap on, how to keep a line of brick straight and a wall perpendicular!


352 posted on 02/22/2007 6:41:32 AM PST by zook
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To: r9etb

You make a much more rational argument than other posters here.

It's not a level playing field when illegals are involved, since it's OBVIOUSLY cheaper to employ them. NO SS, no withholding, no health insurance...from a strictly economic point of view it's a no-brainer on the part of the employer.

However, if we're going to have labor laws and immigration laws they must be enforced.

Plus, I can't say I don't worry about America ultimately becoming a land of serfs and rich landowners with nothing in between if this keeps up.

You have to admit, from a personal perspective, it is disheartening that it seems like every year, another line of work gets shipped to India or given to illegal workers. I realize that we're doing OK in America overall, and people said the same thing 50 years ago. However, I am pointing out that it's easy to get concerned about it.


353 posted on 02/22/2007 6:43:19 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: Sir_Ed

Along about the time digital film output became feasible, I took a sales job with a large color house and was at one point selling about $100K per month in film and proofs, plus selling Scitex Visionary ... remember that, lol? It was a nice living for a while, then cheaper RIPs and imagesetters started taking over. That color house had to move both upstream into creative and photography, and downstream into printing, to survive. My former employer and longtime vendor is now a competitor. InDesign and a PDF workflow is nice, isn't it?


354 posted on 02/22/2007 6:43:28 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SomeoneNeedsToSayIt

You are an I D I O T....


355 posted on 02/22/2007 6:48:59 AM PST by C Knotts
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To: NellieMae
My husband had to turn down dozens of callers because he couldn't do it all.

You have answered your own question. A need unfilled in capitalist society will eventually be filled by someone.

By the way, were your 1st generation brick masons immigrants to this country?

356 posted on 02/22/2007 6:51:04 AM PST by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: raybbr
Perhaps nothing much has been said about some other nationalities because the numbers of illegals are relatively.

I have been arguing against a pass for the Russian Mafia. They are dangerous and super-violent, yet apparently nothing is done about them either. We have violent Asian gangs in our area, mostly made up of illegal aliens and immigrants, committing home invasions, etc. In other areas also they have been committing horrific crimes.

Then there are illegal aliens as well as immigrants from hostile countries in addition to Mexico - their presence is a huge security threat for this country.

357 posted on 02/22/2007 6:52:19 AM PST by Dante3
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To: NellieMae

I know I'm going to sound like an evil prick here, but truth-be-told, those jobs do not belong to your husband or your son. Those jobs belong to the employer, and he can hire whoever the heck he wants to.


358 posted on 02/22/2007 6:52:53 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Dante3

I have been arguing against a pass for the Russian Mafia. They are dangerous and super-violent, yet apparently nothing is done about them either. We have violent Asian gangs in our area, mostly made up of illegal aliens and immigrants, committing home invasions, etc. In other areas also they have been committing horrific crimes.






Doing crimes Americans don't won't to do?


359 posted on 02/22/2007 6:53:28 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ByDesign

I've found that the larger e-commerce sites are excellent prospects for me, for my knowledge of direct marketing copy and creative technique, for my photo studio, for quality color printing and for mailing services. Once they reach a certain scale and sales begin to plateau, print comes back into the picture as a way to drive online sales and reach new customers. I'm not put off by the internet in the least. It's been very helpful to me, in more ways than one. The length of print runs has been flat or even declining for several years, but that has been more than made up for with shorter run, niche titles.


360 posted on 02/22/2007 6:57:02 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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