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To: flashbunny
So if you use your property in the commission of crime that should be allowed?

C'mon. Get off it. Smoking is not illegal in private homes but if laws are passed that penalize smoking into the lungs of kids...then local govt has every right to take action.
20 posted on 02/21/2007 7:32:05 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: eleni121

Private property is private property.


22 posted on 02/21/2007 7:33:51 PM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: eleni121

"Smoking is not illegal in private homes but if laws are passed that penalize smoking into the lungs of kids...then local govt has every right to take action."

Got anything beyond emotional gibberish? "Smoking into the lungs of kids?" That didn't make a lick of sense.

Tobacco is a legal product. Your first point is ridiculous. If you use a gun in commission of crime should that be allowed? If you use a car in commission of crime should that be allowed? If you tap dance in commission of crime should that be allowed? There's no logical thought there, just a melodramatic question.

Smoking bans hurt bars and restaurants. You are not paying the any of the expenses involved in running the business. You have made no investment in the business. You won't suffer if the bar or restaurant fails. And most importantly, YOU OR "THE CHILDREN" ARE NOT FORCED TO GO INTO ANY BAR OR RESTAURANT THAT ALLOWS SMOKING!

Think about that wonder. You have the freedom to take yourself or your kids into any public establishment you chose - that will let you in. You make the choice were you go. If you find a bar or restaurant that allows smoking you have - get this - the FREEDOM to not go in! And YOU would be the one keeping the smoke out of your lungs or the lungs of the kids, not the government.

Or can't you handle that responsibility?

My guess is you can't handle the thought of other people having that freedom and the audacity to not cater to your every whim.



24 posted on 02/21/2007 7:43:01 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: eleni121
...then local govt has every right to take action.

Only if they can prove, without a doubt, that second-hand smoke is dangerous. So far, they haven't. Read some of the reports which point out the falsified results of the research on which these findings are based.

The following represent a part of the Surgeon General's 2004 Report:

- Smoking causes reduced fetal growth and low birth weight.

- Smoking by the mother can cause SIDS.

- Smoking causes low fertility in women.

- Babies of women who smoke are more likely to be born too early.

My (our) children are all adults now, and back when they came into the world, and obviously before that time, smoking and pregnancy were not at war with each other. My kids weighed in at 8 lbs 6 ozs, 8 lbs 7 ozs and 8 lbs 8 ozs.

They all showed up within a week of their "due date", and SIDS? Never heard of it then or before. If smoking by pregnant women could be blamed for SIDS, imagine the outcry of horror for such a catastrophe through all the years when pregnant women did smoke! Yet, it was not even heard of then.

Low fertility? Believe me, smoking was not my choice of birth control!

47 posted on 02/23/2007 11:30:47 PM PST by IIntense
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52 posted on 02/24/2007 3:52:13 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: eleni121
then local govt has every right to take action.
No government at any level has the right to do anything. Governments don't have rights.
53 posted on 02/24/2007 4:53:21 AM PST by jdege
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