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Affidavit: McVeigh had high-level help
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | February 22, 2007 | Pamela Manson

Posted on 02/21/2007 1:10:07 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols says a high-ranking FBI official "apparently" was directing Timothy McVeigh in the plot to blow up a government building and might have changed the original target of the attack, according to a new affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Utah.

The official and other conspirators are being protected by the federal government "in a cover-up to escape its responsibility for the loss of life in Oklahoma," Nichols claims in a Feb. 9 affidavit.

Documents that supposedly help back up his allegations have been sealed to protect information in them, such as Social Security numbers and dates of birth.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Utah had no comment on the allegations. The FBI and Justice Department in Washington, D.C., also declined comment.

Nichols does not say what motive the government would have to be involved in the bombing.

The affidavit was filed in a lawsuit brought by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, who believes his brother's death in a federal prison was linked to the Oklahoma City bombing. The suit, which seeks documents from the FBI under the federal Freedom of Information Act, alleges that authorities mistook Kenneth Trentadue for a bombing conspirator and that guards killed him in an interrogation that got out of hand.

Trentadue's death a few months after the April 19, 1995, bombing was ruled a suicide after several investigations. The government has adamantly denied any wrongdoing in the death.

In his affidavit, Nichols says he wants to bring closure to the survivors and families of the attack on the Alfred B. Murrah Federal Building, which took 168 lives. He alleges he wrote then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004, offering to help identify all parties who played a role in the bombing but never got a reply.

Nichols is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo. McVeigh, who carried out the bombing, was executed in 2001.

McVeigh and Nichols were the only defendants indicted in the bombing. However, Nichols alleges others were involved.

McVeigh told him he was recruited for undercover missions while serving in the military, according to Nichols. He says he learned sometime in 1995 that there had been a change in bombing target and that McVeigh was upset by that.

"There, in what I believe was an accidental slip of the tongue, McVeigh revealed the identity of a high-ranking FBI official who was apparently directing McVeigh in the bomb plot," Nichols says in the affidavit.

Nichols also says that McVeigh threatened him and his family to force him to rob Roger Moore, an Arkansas gun dealer, of weapons and explosives. He later learned the robbery was staged so Moore, who was in on the phony heist, could deny any knowledge of the bombing plot if the stolen items were traced back to him, Nichols claims.

He adds that Moore allegedly told his attorney that he would not be prosecuted in connection with the bombing because he was a "protected witness."

Moore could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

In addition, Nichols says McVeigh must have had help building the bomb. The device he and McVeigh built the day before the bombing did not resemble the one that ultimately was used, Nichols says, and "displayed a level of expertise and sophistication" that neither man had.

pmanson@sltrib.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crapweaselalert; mad; nutjobalert; okbomb; okcbombing; tinfoil; tinfoilhat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I've been posting on FR for years my suspicion that JD #2 was an informant. Then along comes this thread showing how a government informant is stirring up racial strife.

Check out this thread and my post #6 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785727/posts

81 posted on 02/21/2007 2:30:43 PM PST by fso301
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Nothing to see here. Move along, move along." /sarcasm
82 posted on 02/21/2007 2:32:13 PM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: fso301

Could explain how Hussein Al-Husseini got a MASSPORT job at Logan Airport in Boston after being identified as a "person of interest" after his defamation suit against Jayna Davis.


83 posted on 02/21/2007 2:34:28 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: 6SJ7
If the Feds are hiding information to protect Clinton and others, they may wind up undermining the credibility governments need to enlist the assistance of its citizens. Since the Kennedy assassination, large numbers of Americans have grown to mistrust official government statements. Look at the recent reaction of many conservatives to the treatment of the Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a drug smuggler. Whether or not the conviction was just, the fact is that many bloggers and talk show hosts suspected a Clintonesque stonewalling and a GOP version of Arkancide. The reaction of the Administration and its defenders to the criticism was one of appeals to authority (how dare you question the decisions of prosecutors and courts) and untruthful statements to the media (Tony Snow saying that the trial transcripts indicated the convictions were just at a time when said transcripts had not been released).

The day may come when the Federal government will need the active support of the population, as in a major war. Decades of blusters and lies from official sources will have led to a high level of cynicism. It will be difficult to ask for financial sacrifices, reinstitute the draft, etc., when perhaps as high as 40% of the American people, on both the Right and the Left, do not believe the government's spokesmen and suspect conspiracy or cover-up. Like it or not, this state of affairs will have been the result of official cover-ups, hypocrisy, and lies over the last few decades.

84 posted on 02/21/2007 2:36:07 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: P-40

IIRC, it was Jayna Davis who said that the FBI had some 21 videos from security cameras around the are of the Murrah Building. She wondered why none of those videos had ever been shown to the public.

That audio indicates that at least one video exists of the truck and occupants (leaving) just before the truck blew up.

This case has many unanswered questions, and no one in a position of power seems interested in finding those answers.


85 posted on 02/21/2007 2:40:13 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Stayfree

I haven't come across that in the research I've done. Do you have any further information?


86 posted on 02/21/2007 2:45:18 PM PST by OESY
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The OKC Bombing spelled the end of the Civilian Militia movements in America, that grew in response to the Clinton/Democrat power grabs of the late 80's/early 90's...

I've always had a grain of suspicion about the original verdicts, because it all seemed to easy....


87 posted on 02/21/2007 2:49:37 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: cripplecreek

I can buy it,clinton was in office.Ever notice all the school shootings during the clinton years and then the push to dis arm the people.


88 posted on 02/21/2007 2:54:25 PM PST by JOHANNES801 (I have no tag line, cause I say nasty things.)
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To: TomGuy

I had never heard that NPR audio ... it is very disturbing. I remain convinced that Iraqi operatives were deeply involved in OKC. That any connections contionue to be covered up by the current administration is not surprising when one realizes that the invasion from the south could be squelched in a year were the administration to have a different perspective than amnesty to aid business interests in the US and Mexico. It is part of why these are very disturbing times to be an American disenfranchised voter. [And don't get me started on TWA 800 and the involvement of the CIA to create disinformation the way they have done regarding UFOs and ETs. Just their involvement makes one skeptical about whether there are ETs visiting this planet that the government might be aware of; CIA creation of 'a fate of the TWA flight' is blatant manipulation of the public psyche!]


89 posted on 02/21/2007 2:57:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Cicero
Clinton had a big speech ready to go immediately after it happened

POTUS's have a staff of speechwriters on standby. (Not that I defend Clintoon or anything.)

90 posted on 02/21/2007 3:16:01 PM PST by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

While McVeigh may have lied to Nichols, in asserting that he had been "recruited for undercover missions in the military" and he may have lied to Nichols still further about an "FBI" connection that McVeigh had, there may in fact have been a point when Nichols learned that someone else had informed McVeigh about a change of plans.

There may have been someone else. McVeigh may have lied to Nichols about who that someone else was.

Then again, the "recruited for undercover" and "FBI" associations may have been a story for McVeigh to use that he and Nichols had agreed on, which, could still leave "someone else" in the picture, as to who changed the plan.

It is still questioningly coincidental that Nichols was lousy at making fertilizer bombs (numerous attempts) until after he came back from a trip to the Philippines; a trip that put him in the Philippines at a period of time when Ramsey Yusef was also in the Philippines; a trip during which a Philippine investigator lost track of Nichols whereabouts.


91 posted on 02/21/2007 3:24:43 PM PST by Wuli
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nichols is an idiot.


92 posted on 02/21/2007 3:24:57 PM PST by bkepley
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To: MHGinTN

but the government doesn't want to have the truth or uncomfortable facts brought to the general public



It amazes me Bush doesn't play this trump card.


93 posted on 02/21/2007 5:24:12 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: TomGuy
That audio indicates that at least one video exists of the truck and occupants (leaving) just before the truck blew up.

Yes, that probably was Jayna Davis who said that...and the FBI has finally admitted that those tapes exist but has not said what is on them to my knowledge. If you want a good example of some courageous reporting...Jayna Davis is it.

What is so funny is that the audio clip is from none other than NPR, which is not known for its right-wing views. In spite of that shocking segment airing on NPR, it has generated nearly zero interest....including on Free Republic.
94 posted on 02/21/2007 5:31:51 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Wallace T.

I think you are talking about the Border AGents transcripts, not OKC.


95 posted on 02/21/2007 5:34:11 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: Sherman Logan
It's said three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

Then you think that no more than one person knew about 9/11.

Or the first WTC bombing.

Or the OKC bombing.

Or Normandy.

Or [fill in the blank ad infinitum]

Conspiracies happen all the time. And many, many people keep secrets.
96 posted on 02/21/2007 5:43:58 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: OKSooner

thanks for the ping...
and here's a bump from a guy who thinks McVey/Nichols probably did
have an Islamo/Phillipino connection.


97 posted on 02/21/2007 7:23:29 PM PST by VOA
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To: Rte66

mark


98 posted on 02/21/2007 7:52:22 PM PST by Rte66
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To: VOA

OKC was an Iraqi gift to al qaeda ... they were connected through the Phillipines and the Iraqis took the job to employ American dissidents for the task, with their expert help. The cover up had an envigorating effect upon al qaeda ... think bojinka.


99 posted on 02/21/2007 8:19:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: All

Aklex Jones, on C2C just now mentioned that columns were blown at OKC that were further back in the building than intact columns. Wow, this could get interesting anyway. I'm not a huge fan of Alex Jones because of his 911 conspiracy nuttery, but this is interesting.


100 posted on 02/21/2007 10:19:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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