Posted on 02/21/2007 10:50:40 AM PST by lizol
ANTI-GAY REMARKS MADE BY POLISH PRESIDENT SPARK ANGER IN IRELAND
21 February 2007
During a debate at Dublin Castle yesterday, the Polish President Lech Kaczynski said that homosexual culture was a threat to the survival of the human race and should not be promoted as an alternative lifestyle.
The Gay and Lesbian Equality Network (GLEN) have called on the head of state to withdraw his remarks.
"I'm sure that many Polish people living in Ireland are disappointed and embarrassed by these remarks," said GLEN spokesman Kieran Rose.
"So I think the best thing for him to do is to withdraw them."
Kaczynskis (pictured) comments were criticised by Labour Party TD Joan Burton in the Dail last night.
"I have to say I think it is a pity in the context of the contribution that gay people have made not just to the culture, literature and music of his own country, Poland, but in general the contribution to so many different aspects of human life, in the past, and as we live it now, Burton said.
The Polish president and his wife arrived in Ireland on Sunday and were due to conclude their three-day visit tonight.
Mr Kaczynski is believed to have made the controversial remarks during a debate at the Forum on Europe in Dublin Castle where he spoke on the theme: Poland and Ireland in a United Europe.
Don't bring logic into this. It's so patriarchal.
"I say give em hell." Uh, guy, they're earning it, working for it, so it won't have to be given to them. Problem is, they are working to take all the rest of humanity with them if they can.
man oh man am I confused. I thought Poland was being run by twins, and that one of the twins was gay.
Homosexuals believe their own PR.
The REST of the world sees homosexuality as a perversion.
Most of the rest of the world sees homosexuality as a choice and a mental disorder.
"Y'all homos are in a huff"
Or a Duff but most defintely NOT in a muff!
I was going for the alliteration :-). They may have some purpose for muffs, what with it's being February ... but I'd rather not think about it.
that makes me never want to watch Sound of Music again....
Sorry,but you threw a big fat softball right over the plate and I had to take a swing at it.
So to speak.
Was Liberace gay?
And it was a solid base hit, too.
Poland has a large Catholic population, IIRC.
I think so.
LOL! But if you do, think of these guys playing the nuns!
Did you hear the one about the two Irishmen that lived together?
Their names were Gerald FitzPatrick and Patrick FitzGerald.
LOL! Kieran is a man's name. However, I have the distinct feeling that he either would not be offended, nor do I suppose he would be allowed to be, lest the thought police come along and throw him into the brig.
Then again, my guess is he might enjoy that, too!
Few things sting like words of truth.
Although it would be good to go to Poland, it might not be necessary to go that far. Here is a snippet from a "Letter from Cork" by Christie Davies, in the latest "Chronicles" magazine:
"Recently I returned to dear old Cork after exactly ten years' absence. What 50 years ago had been a poor town on the periphery of Ireland is now a big, thriving, growing, wealthy city.
As I was conveyed from the airport to the city center, I asked the driver, 'Anything changed around here recently?'
'Immigrants,' he replied, 'Poles, tens of thousands of them, particularly in the building industry. There is no pick and shovel work for an Irishman anymore. Most of them can't speak an English such as that you can understand them. They are fanatically religious, and they are bringing their priests with them. A lot of them have a drink problem. If you ask me, they are taking over the place.' I had the feeling that I had heard all this in a totally different context, some 50 years ago, but it seemed a bit tactless to mention such a thing in rebel Cork."
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After describing the very substantial Polish influence in Ireland already (e.g., the "Irish Catholic" is now apparently printed one-third in Polish), and the deterioration of the Faith and morals in the country, he ends thus:
"As the Poles come to dominate Ireland, imposing their language and culture on the country, they will (unlike Mexicans in the United States) be saving that distressful nation and restoring her respect for virtue and authority. The wise men have arrived from the East, perhaps just in time."
You will have to buy the magazine (choking down any lingering FR neocon sentiments) to read the rest, which is really good.
Yeah, but come on. It is just a bit hysterical to say it is a threat to the survival of the human race. Homosexuals have been around as long as man has I would reckon. We're still here. At least it feels like we're here at any rate.
Don't speak for the rest of the world. If you feel like you're right, you don't need the rest of the world on your team. Don't include them for the 'moral authority' that democracy supposedly lends to a belief. For me, all six billion of you can believe one thing but if I think a different way- that's that- the rest of you are wrong. My life isn't a popularity contest. I'm one of those types that will go right to the cinema and watch the movie you don't want me to see- just out of spite.
Don't count me in with your 'REST of the world...'. Don't speak for me. Don't appropriate me in order to rail against something you don't like.
I don't hate gays. I don't dislike gays. I don't care if that bothers anybody. But don't speak for me.
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