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The Blog Heard 'Round The Industry
Chattanoogan.com ^ | February 20, 2007 | Jim Shepherd

Posted on 02/20/2007 11:04:03 AM PST by holymoly

Jim Zumbo angers firearm enthusiasts.

Legendary hunting writer Jim Zumbo has incurred the wrath of thousands of shooting enthusiasts with a weekend posting on his now-suspended blog for Outdoor Life magazine.

In the posting, Zumbo said "assault rifles" (or "terrorist" rifles as he went on to refer to them) had "no place" among "our hunting community." Adding that in his "humble opinion…these things have no place in hunting" because "We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern."

Zumbo went on to say "game departments should ban them from the praries (sic) and woods."

That kicked off a firestorm among owners of so-called "black rifles". Within hours, internet sites had reproduced the offending blog, kicking off thousands of angry emails and internet postings.

Subsequently, in what may one day be classified as the worst apology ever written (aptly titled "I was wrong, BIG TIME") Zumbo attempted to soothe readers, attributing his remarks to being tired following a long day of hunting coyotes in extreme weather conditions.

He went on recount his 40 years of NRA membership and the United States Sportsmen's Alliance, an organization, which, he wrote, "actively fights anti-hunters and animal rights groups for hunter's rights." He also told readers he had plans to go hunting with an AR-style rifle to give them a try.

At that point, however, there was little, if anything, that would assuage an angry horde of electronically mobilized AR fans. They considered Zumbo's remarks as being tantamount to a sellout, with Zumbo offering up "black rifles" as a sacrificial lamb for anti-gun forces.

In an appearance on Tom Gresham's national radio show "Gun Talk" Sunday afternoon, Zumbo attempted to apologize, but listeners didn't seem to be buying his verbal apology. If anything, any attempt to assuage them only fanned the flames of outrage.

Over the course of the afternoon and evening, various executives associated with Zumbo posted their own comments on his blog site, attempting to deflect the anger at directed at Zumbo away from their companies.

It didn't work.

Instead, they found themselves under attack with angry feedback calling for everything from a boycott of all Remington products (a pair of Remington execs were mentioned as having been with Zumbo on his now ill-fated hunting trip) to cancellation of Outdoor Life magazine subscriptions and campaigns against all companies with connections to Zumbo.

Yesterday morning, responding to an onslaught of negative publicity, Remington CEO and President Tommy Millner released a statement severing "all sponsorship ties with Mr. Zumbo, effective immediately."

Zumbo was entitled to his opinion, Millner wrote, but the inflammatory comments were solely his and did not reflect the views of Remington.

"Remington has spent tens of millions of dollars defending our Second Amendment rights to privately own and possess firearms, " wrote Millner, "and we will continue to vigorously fight to protect these rights. As hunters and shooters of all interest levels, we should strive to utilize this unfortunate occurrence to unite as a whole in support of our Second Amendment rights."

In conclusion, Millner expressed regret at the termination of a long-standing relationship with a "well-respected writer and life-long hunter."

Outdoor Life announced they were discontinuing the "Hunting With Zumbo" blog "for the time being" due to the "controversy surrounding Jim Zumbo's latest postings."

Their notice went on to remind readers "Outdoor Life has always been, and will always be, a steadfast supporter of our Second Amendment rights which do not make distinctions based on the looks of the firearms we choose to own, shoot and take hunting."

Yesterday, anyone who didn't comment risked being lumped in with anti-gun forces. Any voices calling for reason and tolerance found themselves shouted down. And those writers professing support for Mr. Zumbo privately certainly weren't willing to go on the record with that support.

Additionally, Cabela's has not yet dropped their sponsorship of the Jim Zumbo Outdoors television show, Cabela's Frank Ross is being quoted as having said their legal department is "currently reviewing contractual obligations and commitments regarding our sponsorship of the Jim Zumbo Outdoors television show. "

"Jim's comments are as unfortunate as they are inappropriate," said National Shooting Sports Foundation president Doug Painter. "No one should divide firearms into good-gun, bad-gun categories."

Zumbo's ill-considered blog may not have been intended to create good-gun, bad-gun categories, but it has certainly raised firebrand rhetoric to an art form. Rather than hunters being supported by recreational and competitive shooting enthusiasts, they have now become "Fudds" to shooters who feel they have been labeled "terrorists" by a "hard-core hunter."

It's truly not a pretty picture, but may observers say it accurately reflects a widening gap between "traditional" and "non-traditional" shooting enthusiasts.

With Congress reconsidering the Assault Weapon Ban and Connecticut and New Jersey considering legislation that would limit handgun purchases to one per month, this latest schism is already being used as further evidence of the "need" to regulate firearms -all firearms - more stringently.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; mossyoak; remington; zumbo
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To: arthurus

OK, so individuals possessing nukes is protected under the 2nd Amendment.

And since I believe nukes are NOT protected under the 2nd Amendment, I am "privately interpreting" the Constitution. Whereas you saying that possessing nukes is Constitutionally protected is not.

Makes perfect sense.


281 posted on 02/22/2007 7:17:15 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

My take follows directly from the actual wording. Yours does not. That is the difference.


282 posted on 02/22/2007 9:02:31 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: GunRunner

You think like a city boy who is not much in touch with real people, like a not terribly zealous liberal. You think that if something is possible then everyone will necessarily do the thing and misuse it to the worst extent possible. That is where we get the attitude that allowing "concealed carry" necessarily means daily shootouts in the streets.


283 posted on 02/22/2007 9:06:37 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: arthurus
Before your started your "pissed off good 'ol boy givin' the city boy a lesson" crap, I was actually trying to argue in a civil manner. The utter incoherence of your argument has nothing to do with where I live or how many "real people" I'm in touch with. You argue kind of like a liberal, as if the particulars of life have something to do with the validity of your points (they don't by the way).

To assert that my statements are somehow on par with gun grabbers sanctimoniously preaching doom and gloom from concealed carry laws shows that you haven't read anything I've stated. I asked you a simple question, "Is possession of a nuclear weapons protected under the 2A?" I said, "No, I don't think so because they wouldn't be used by a militia", and all of a sudden I'm Sarah Brady. Have you ever argued with a "real person" on this issue before?

If "arms" in the Constitution mean every kind of vehicle and weapon to you, from .22 pistols to a 50 megaton nuke, good luck with that. I'll respectfully disagree. In your mind, you might be making perfect sense, I'll just have to take your word for it.

284 posted on 02/22/2007 11:06:28 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: Squantos

285 posted on 02/22/2007 10:20:07 PM PST by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: GunRunner
You seem pretty interested in military hardware history, have you ever seen this thing? Ekranoplan

I've never seen one but I'm familiar with 'em- In Airframe and Powerplant school we saw film and argued about whether they were ground-effect or cavitation aircraft, AKA *KIWIS*.

You really ought to post that on one of the MilTech FReep threads. Most of my experience with Russian hardware is with things on treads that make loud BOOM noises, though I've flown as a passenger on some interesting Russian aircraft. That's one reason for my fascination with and preference for the ex-Soviet railway systems of Russia.

286 posted on 02/23/2007 7:28:52 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: OKSooner
Good morning.
"Zumbo attempted to soothe readers, attributing his remarks to being tired following a long day of hunting coyotes in extreme weather conditions."

I wonder if Zumbo was using a .223 caliber hunting rifle to kill the coyotes, as so many varmint hunters do?

Michael Frazier
287 posted on 02/23/2007 7:39:50 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: DBrow
Good morning.
"...don't people hunt mule deer with AKS rifles, or AK clones?"

It doesn't matter if they do or not. The 2nd Amendment doesn't say "Shall not be infringed except when it comes to hunting deer". A gunner and a wordmeister like Zumbo should have understood that and made it clear to one and all that he did.

Michael Frazier
288 posted on 02/23/2007 7:47:38 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Courdeleon02
Good morning.
"<> I'm ready for the assault!"

I'll bet your namesake would have assaulted you for your comments.

Michael Frazier
289 posted on 02/23/2007 7:56:36 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

I understand that- I was surprised that a "master hunter" like Zumbo never saw anyone hunting with one.

RKBA is not about hunting, I'm with you on that.


290 posted on 02/23/2007 8:10:28 AM PST by DBrow
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