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Chattanoogan.com ^ | February 20, 2007 | Jim Shepherd

Posted on 02/20/2007 11:04:03 AM PST by holymoly

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To: Courdeleon02
There is no reason for any hunter to have a war weapon.

Not all shooters hunt. Many of us shoot targets. Sometimes these are organized events, sometimes not.

The Second Ammendment, on the other hand, retains ownership of the government in the hands of the citizens. We, the People, consent to be governed in the manner we choose. The military firearms affirm and maintain that choice. We can also defend our neighborhoods in hard times. These are the reasons for firearm ownership. Hunting has absolutely nothing to do with it.

You know this, but prefer to be a subject rather than a citizen.

221 posted on 02/21/2007 6:03:40 AM PST by GingisK
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To: ctdonath2
A review of Courdeleon02's posts doesn't show anything immediately offensive.

Except that he/she is a McCain/Rudyphile

222 posted on 02/21/2007 6:09:26 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Tokra
Is it OK for me to have a bazooka? A tank? An anti-aircraft missile? A cruise missile? A nuclear warhead?

Technically, you don't draw any lines. The Founders believed that the People were the government, and that the responsibility of maintaining the free state rests on the shoulders of the People. The base assumption is that the citizens are good, rather than bad. I guess they didn't know leftists would come along and coddle the criminals.

If one maintains the proper assumption that the citizens are moral, upstanding, and responsible people, there can be no problem with extending such trust. Governments, on the other hand, have proven throughout history to be unreliable power mongers who will unjustly serve the ends of power. The Second Ammendment was designed to keep the power in the hands of the People.

How could you not know this?

Now, small arms are easier to keep and maintain at home. Crew served weapons require more care to maintain and deploy. There should be no problems with citizen militias maintaining crew served weapons. Even in the Civil War cannons were provided by citizens for use by the military.

You need to read a lot about the foundations of this government. I suggest you start with the Federalist Papers.

223 posted on 02/21/2007 6:13:47 AM PST by GingisK
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To: holymoly
Reminder to the gun grabbers: Once again, I repeat, for all those out there in anti-gun land, who think they can run over us, rule us, tell us what is good and bad for us, take our freedoms at the point of a gun and deny us our Bill of Rights given rights to own, possess, and use firearms, FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND. Come and get it Effers.
224 posted on 02/21/2007 6:15:41 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats, Enemies of the Republic, the ENEMY within!)
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To: holymoly; Joe Brower

Just read on the shooting wire www.theshootingwire.com, that Mossy Oak just dropped him, and The Outdoor Channel didn't run his show last night.


225 posted on 02/21/2007 6:19:45 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: P8riot

Is that a zottable offense here now?


226 posted on 02/21/2007 6:33:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Courdeleon02

Where in the second amendment does it specify what kind of arms? Is an assault rifle something that scares Barbara Boxer? Why is an assault rifle bad? The muzzleloading musket was an assault rifle.

And you have no idea what a republic is. We live in a CONSTITUTIONAL republic. That means that just because the MSM whips the mobs into a frenzy does not mean we lose rights nor have them redefined.


227 posted on 02/21/2007 6:43:15 AM PST by Idaho Whacko
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To: girlangler
Just read on the shooting wire www.theshootingwire.com, that Mossy Oak just dropped him,...

Several of his sponsors have statements on their site. Remington, Mossy Oak, and Hi Mountain Seasonings.

I've heard that Cabelas has also pulled the plug, but haven't been able to verify that.

...and The Outdoor Channel didn't run his show last night.

Not much point airing a show when the major sponsors - and Remington and Mossy Oak are heavy hitters - pull the plug. ;o)

228 posted on 02/21/2007 6:47:00 AM PST by holymoly ("Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting bunny wabbits." - Jim Zumbo)
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To: Courdeleon02

Criminals do have them there. They also can do a lot of damage with less than assault rifles because ordinary people don't want to risk a felony by owning one.

Notice how the states and cities with the highest crime have the most restrictive gun control, and their crime is getting worse!!!!!

You can draw a stronger correlation between % of blacks in a population and crime than you can between % of "assault weapon" owners and crime. Your logic leads to some silly things.


229 posted on 02/21/2007 6:48:10 AM PST by Idaho Whacko
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To: ctdonath2
Is that a zottable offense here now?

No (well maybe to me), but apparently he pissed somebody off.

230 posted on 02/21/2007 7:04:12 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Zumbo can cry about how sorry he is now, and how tired he was when he wrote those words, but he showed his true views on the subject.

You'd think that someone who claims to be part of the firearms community would realize just how sensitive we are to anything that has even the faintest whiff of gun control about it, and how ferociously we'd react to it coming from one of "our" guys! The fact that he couldn't see that just shows how hopelessly out of touch he and other "sportsmen" like him really are.

You'd also think that would particularly be the case of someone who's on the 2007 ballot as a candidate for the NRA's Board of Directors, as former columnist/blogger Zumbo is.

231 posted on 02/21/2007 7:30:48 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy
You'd also think that would particularly be the case of someone who's on the 2007 ballot as a candidate for the NRA's Board of Directors, as former columnist/blogger Zumbo is.

Something tells me that's one ballot that will be changing soon.

232 posted on 02/21/2007 7:42:22 AM PST by CFC__VRWC (Go Gators! NCAA Football and Basketball Champions!)
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To: Courdeleon02
There is no reason for any hunter to have a war weapon.
What about a bow and arrow? How about a sling?
Both are hunting weapons and yet each, at the same time, are weapons of war.
(or is it the "reach out and touch someone" aspect that you fear about firearms?)
How about roofing tools? They aren't even hunting weapons but could make great weapons of war...

Why did you even bother posting your nonsense?
233 posted on 02/21/2007 7:46:27 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Courdeleon02
We live in a Republic in case you did not notice.
Tell any politician that and they'll roundly tell you that we live in a Democracy.

BTW, the very fact that we live in a Republic is what does give Americans the right to carry military grade weapons. Read and reconsider, unless yours is just a facade.

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People." Tench Coxe, 1788.

234 posted on 02/21/2007 7:59:11 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Courdeleon02
The gun issue really does make some of you mad as hell.
Ignorance, like yours, makes me mad as hell.
Your 'game'...How big is your arsenal. (sic)(?)...
makes me mad as hell.

But to answer your arsenal question...don't ask, don't tell.

235 posted on 02/21/2007 8:03:39 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Courdeleon02
But for places like New York or Philadephia and LA such weapons in the hands of the criminal element cannot be tolerated.
A classic plea, and a classic mistake.
Here's a clue...the criminal element already has such weapons in their hands and they're going to get them no matter what you do to try to prevent it from happening.
All you end up doing is leaving people defenseless against well armed criminals!

Did you visit the Brady Bunch for talking points?

236 posted on 02/21/2007 8:11:28 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

Don't expect an answer. You're posting to the banned.


237 posted on 02/21/2007 8:16:03 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ExSoldier
Courdeleon02 -- Banned or Suspended Account
It would seem I'm railing for naught.
238 posted on 02/21/2007 8:18:03 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I just got to that part. I'm reading it all.


239 posted on 02/21/2007 8:19:06 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
It would seem I'm railing for naught.

Indeed...blood still dripeth from the jaws of the Viking Kitty. ZOT!!

240 posted on 02/21/2007 8:20:41 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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