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McCain: Rumsfeld One Of Worst Secretaries Of Defense In History
ABC News ^ | Feb. 19, 2007 | AP

Posted on 02/19/2007 12:17:06 PM PST by FairOpinion

Senator John McCain said Monday the war in Iraq has been mismanaged for years.

He said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (news - bio) will be remembered as one of the worst to ever hold the job.

He said the United States is paying a heavy price for the mismanagement.

He said Rumsfeld never put enough troops on the ground to succeed in Iraq.

Former Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm were at his side.

Both endorsed McCain over the weekend.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews4.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigfatrino; electionpresident; mccain; rumsfeld; traitor; wot
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To: cyclotic

His ONLY hope to get my vote is if he is the only one running against Hillary. His chance to get the Rep nomination should be just about ZERO. I can see him running as an independent with Lieberman as VP choice - that would make an interesting General Election... it could be his final poke in the eye to the true Republicans.


141 posted on 02/19/2007 1:55:51 PM PST by Froggie
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To: Matchett-PI; gov_bean_ counter

WOW...there is a freeper...gov_bean_counter, I believe, that has been on several threads asking us all to look for who, in the Congress, might have an interest in that part of the world that could be more "personal"...

Maybe this about Rockefailure, Murtha, Pelosi tells us something, since those 3 are some of the most virulent critics..and seem to want us out INSTEAD of winning!!

Maybe they are worried about what we might find by staying.


142 posted on 02/19/2007 1:57:36 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: FairOpinion

I am not voting for this fella anyhow, this just double my not voting for him.


143 posted on 02/19/2007 1:57:55 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: FairOpinion

Did you post the link to this thread on that one??


144 posted on 02/19/2007 1:59:31 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: FairOpinion
He said Rumsfeld never put enough troops on the ground to succeed in Iraq.

I agree. Bremer was also a disaster.

145 posted on 02/19/2007 1:59:45 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: FairOpinion
In late 1992 and early 1993, I spent about 6 months analyzing relative Democrat/Republican corruption...and McCain was my bad example of a Republican who hadn't been a lifelong Democrat switching only to run unopposed.
146 posted on 02/19/2007 1:59:48 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Txsleuth

Did you post the link to this thread on that one??


Yes I did with a recommendation that people come and read the posts on this one.


147 posted on 02/19/2007 2:00:37 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: Txsleuth
...but, that wasn't Rummy's fault.

Powell declined to go to Turkey personally and pressure them. I've put that on him.

148 posted on 02/19/2007 2:02:10 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: stan_sipple
Actually Rumsfeld tired to resign on more than one previous occasion and the President refused to accept it.
149 posted on 02/19/2007 2:02:27 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: FairOpinion

Rumsfeld was fired for a reason. As Bush himself admitted in his address to the nation last month, things aren't going well over there. He thought he could do more with less. He was wrong. For McCain to declare Rumsfeld THE worst Sec Def is electoral nonsense but to say Rumsfeld was flawless and should still hold his job is silly and innappropriate.


150 posted on 02/19/2007 2:04:37 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Txsleuth
...but, that wasn't Rummy's fault.

Powell declined to go to Turkey personally and pressure them. I've put that on him.

Bush has some responisbility ther for not making him go... And Clinton has a lot to answer for there by letting our relations with Turkey fall apart from neglect, thus dramatically decreasing the prestige that Turkey's secular government had from the beneficial relationship. This last led to a more Islamist government taking power in Turkey, which made the arrangments much harder to make.

151 posted on 02/19/2007 2:04:55 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Txsleuth
Last week during the House speeches about Iraq...Duncan Hunter stood up several time and listed what the military did NOT have at their disposal at the time of 9/11.

Off-hand, do you have a link?

152 posted on 02/19/2007 2:08:13 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Thank you so much...I love freepers, they always teach me knew things.


153 posted on 02/19/2007 2:12:53 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: FairOpinion; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; alfa6; Valin; ...

John McCain slanders Donald Rumsfeld as yet one more back-stabbing of President Bush.

Who can forget John McCain's two-year telethon on behalf of enemy detainees, doing his best impression of Jerry Lewis and Jerry's kids.

John McCain did more than anyone to prevent President Bush from nominating constructionist judges to the Supreme Court.

John McCain used the First Amendment as his toilet paper with his vile "campaign finance reform" (s/b Incumbent Preservation Act "and the people be damned").

John McCain the martyr of the Vietnam War--which was lost in November 1965 when Lyndon Baines Johnson roundly cursed and humiliated the Joint Chiefs who requested permission to mine Haiphong and bomb Hanoi.

MacNamara had no problem with that outrageous strategic blunder. It went down like buttah when Robert should have resigned.

McCain's current saber-rattling vis-a-vis Iraq cannot obscure his role as al Jazeera's chief lobbyist against the American devil of abu Ghraib.

No, John McCain, you are not to judge ill of Donald Rumsfeld's deft convolution of Clinton's 40% cuts into a leaner fighting machine.

We will go to the 2008 battle with the candidate we have, John McCain, which will be you the same time every American fighting man is issued a large pipe to aim the monkees flying out of his [navel].

We expect this line of crap from John Murtha and Hillary Clinton. Get thee behind them, John McCain.

154 posted on 02/19/2007 2:16:12 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: FairOpinion
[John McLame-RINO, Arizona] said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as one of the worst to ever hold the job.

Shove it, McLame.

155 posted on 02/19/2007 2:16:34 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: lepton

http://www.c-span.org/resources/house_feb2007.asp


Here is a link for all of the House members and their speeches...I guess you just click on the one(s) for Hunter.

I didn't study it...I just went and grabbed this link from C-span.

Hunter was one of the "managers" of the debate..which means that he had time for comments between other GOP House members' speeches.

That is one reason that he was able to make those points repeatedly...because he wasn't restricted to just one 5 minute speech like most of the others.

However, that could also make it difficult to actually find when or if those short remarks are on this list.

If you have a hard time let me know...


156 posted on 02/19/2007 2:16:38 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: FairOpinion

IMHO, McCain is right. Rumsfeld didn't handle Iraq correctly.


157 posted on 02/19/2007 2:25:21 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Elections have repercussions, you reap what you sow.))
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To: bnelson44

Please read post 69 on this thread.


158 posted on 02/19/2007 2:30:26 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; Seadog Bytes



159 posted on 02/19/2007 2:30:43 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: FairOpinion

I don't see how this helps him get any votes. He's criticizing the president's judgment indirectly, however you slice it. So his strong support on Bush's Iraq policy which did him some good with the base is weakened by this.


160 posted on 02/19/2007 2:33:16 PM PST by George W. Bush
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