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First lady (HRC) criticizes policy of `don't ask, don't tell' (and Rudy Agrees with Hillary)
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | Dec 9, 1999 | staff

Posted on 02/19/2007 9:33:33 AM PST by pissant

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To: justiceseeker93

Do we want someone who is busy revamoing all of his positions, or soemone who sticks to a core set of beliefs.


41 posted on 02/19/2007 10:14:09 AM PST by pissant
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To: EagleUSA

so only those who have served in the military may be C-I-C?


42 posted on 02/19/2007 10:14:39 AM PST by sofaman ("The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.")
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To: sofaman

Of course not, but it should not be immaterial either, especially if you are looking to force feed the military a bunch of political correctness.


43 posted on 02/19/2007 10:16:15 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
On Gay-Rights\Gay Rights Bill:

Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately.

"I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action."

"...It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment."

--New York Post, June 5, 1993

Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office.

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, June 30, 1993

Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal."

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, July 7, 1989

On Gay Domestic Partnership:

"I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership."

--Rudy Giuliani
Informed Sources
New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992


Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’     11/28/2001

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

Ken Ervin

 

Concerned Women for America
1015 Fifteenth St. N.W., Suite 1100
Washington, D.C. 20005
Phone: (202) 488-7000
Fax: (202) 488-0806
E-mail: mail@cwfa.org

44 posted on 02/19/2007 10:16:42 AM PST by jla
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To: pissant
Gay groups say that since the policy was put into effect, the number of such discharges has doubled, to 312, last year.

**************

I wonder how that compares to the rate of other types of discharges? It seems like a small number.

45 posted on 02/19/2007 10:17:40 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pissant
The statement puts Hillary Clinton, once again, at odds with a policy implemented by her husband's administration that her aides believe could cause her problems for her as a candidate in New York. But it puts her in line with the views of MAYOR RUDOLF GIULIANI, her likely Republican opponent, who aides say also supports allowing gays to serve in the military and has been critical of the "don't ask, don't tell" initiative.

Nice. Neither of these dopes should be allowed anywhere near the role of Commander-in-Chief.
46 posted on 02/19/2007 10:18:27 AM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope" -Duncan Hunter)
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To: FreeInWV

so I guess you also have a major problem with VP Cheney who received 5 deferments.


47 posted on 02/19/2007 10:19:01 AM PST by sofaman ("The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.")
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
In any event, what percentage of the Israeli army that is homosexual?

We don't keep track of such things. We have more important things to worry about. The gays aren't a problem -- they're good soldiers. The Arabs are the problem.

48 posted on 02/19/2007 10:19:42 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Hard headed brainwashed trained monkey)
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To: areafiftyone
I would like to know where Rudy is quoted as saying this.

Me too. I'll bet we can find it without too much trouble. Shall we go digging?
49 posted on 02/19/2007 10:19:45 AM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope" -Duncan Hunter)
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To: justiceseeker93

"Isn't it possible that Giuliani will revamp his position on this issue (assuming that the posted article is correct) now that he's not mayor of NYC and is campaigning for the presidency?"

Are you saying that stated positions don't matter? That his is in flux and that's ok. That a candidate can say absolutely anything to get himself elected? Have we turned into the people who say that "principles don't matter"?


50 posted on 02/19/2007 10:20:04 AM PST by FreeInWV
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To: lormand
Make you wonder what his administration would look like.

Probably a lot like Bill Clinton's without Republican opposition....
51 posted on 02/19/2007 10:21:07 AM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope" -Duncan Hunter)
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To: pissant

"First Lady"?????

NEVER WAS..............never will be.


52 posted on 02/19/2007 10:21:37 AM PST by newcthem (George Bush's legacy.....a war with an enemy that can't be named and the "Religion of Peace")
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To: areafiftyone

This article is from a paper in Milwaukee published in 1999 quoting unnamed aides of Giuliani as saying he opposes "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

Oh but it's a smoking gun that will destroy the Giuliani candidacy.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


53 posted on 02/19/2007 10:23:13 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: pissant

"taking note of the fact that there had been an increase in the number of gays expelled from the military since the policy was put in force."

Because of their orientation or their actions? Hmmmm.


54 posted on 02/19/2007 10:23:36 AM PST by kachina (q)
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To: You Dirty Rats

See post 39.


55 posted on 02/19/2007 10:24:27 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Rudy is a RINO writ large...

Semper Fi


56 posted on 02/19/2007 10:24:42 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

A RINO with a big FR fan club too, apparently.

I like the guy. But he should be running a butcher shop in Queens, not be CIC


57 posted on 02/19/2007 10:26:07 AM PST by pissant
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Me too. I'll bet we can find it without too much trouble. Shall we go digging?

Knock yourself out proving that Giuliani is actually for "a gay in every foxhole."

58 posted on 02/19/2007 10:27:26 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: areafiftyone

Did you know that Rudy once wore a dress?


59 posted on 02/19/2007 10:27:53 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

That is called a strawman.


60 posted on 02/19/2007 10:28:20 AM PST by pissant
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