Global-warming theory and the eugenics precedent

washington times ^ | 02/19/2007 | milwguy

[milwguy]

Global Warming" had a precursor in capturing the hearts and minds of the world. Michael Crichton, in his novel "State of Fear," brilliantly juxtaposes the world's current political embrace of "global warming" with the popular embrace of the "science" of eugenics a century ago. For nearly 50 years, from the late 1800s through the first half of the 20th century, there grew a common political acceptance by the world's thinkers, political leaders and media elite that the "science" of eugenics was settled science. There were a few lonely voices trying to be heard in the wilderness in opposition to this bogus science, but they were ridiculed or ignored

[milwguy]

Wonderful, fact filled article debunking the global hot airheads. I just can't understand why so many seemingly smart people buy into Al Gore and fail to realize the 'Inconvenient Truth' is that global warming is the Eugenics of the 21st century. We can only hope it does not take 50 years to debunk this junk science.

[wizecrakker]

Eugenics is bogus science?

So selective breeding doesn't have an effect on phenotype?

Politically correct bullchit.

[cinives]

Funny how the opposite of "the elites" thinking has come true - the elites are reproducing less than the lower and middle classes.

[cinives]

sshhhhhh ! You aren't supposed to notice that part.

The comparison in the article is otherwise correct, however. Any science made into law by the government is usually fulfilling a socialistic/elitist political agenda.

[mel]

bump for later reading

[theBuckwheat]

Just as Global Warming is far more about enabling big and Bigger government, reduced liberty and increased control over free peoples than it is about climate changes, Eugenics was far more about enabling similar destructions of personal rights and liberties than it was about improving the human condition.

Under Global Warming, elites seek to restrict your choice of cars and fuels. Under Eugenics, elites such as those advising the National Socialists in Germany acted to restrict the citizens choice of mates and association. Here in the United States, programs were set up to help minorities and poor people to have fewer children, that is if you count sterilizing black women as "help".

There is plenty of information on this in Google.

Google of "margaret sanger eugenics" yields "about 65,500" hits.

For one example, this one from blackgenocide.org:

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At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South." ...
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from:
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

[Taichi]

John Linder is a fine man... he has served my State well.

What is funny to me is, there will be some nut ball who will say "OOOhh... He's a congressman. What does he know?"
Completely overlooking AL Gore's total lack of credentials.

I know this because just last night I sited Thomas Sowell and Michael Crichton to know-it-all global warmer after he had spent Ten minutes going on about Gore's movie. He said that these men were not qualified to talk about the environment they were not scientist.
I was forced to rip him a new one.

[marvlus]

He said that these men were not qualified to talk about the environment they were not scientist.

You do know that Michael Crichton went to medical school to become a doctor before he decided to become a writer?

[Brad from Tennessee]

Climate Audit is a blog run by two reputable Canadian climate scientist who are skeptics. Link below is technical but is about NOAA (U.S. govt. bureaucrats) beginning to fabricate historic temperature data to support global warming theory:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1142

[centurion316]

ping

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

"Eugenics" was more a political and social movement than a scientific one. I think that's the point being made here.

Read G.K. Chesterton's "Eugenics and other Evils" for a good overview of what was happening in the last quarter of the 19th century and the first quarter of the 20th century. Utterly frightening how eugenics and socialism/collectivism were tied at the hip, just as GW and socialism/collectivism is now.

[rusureitflies?]

Latest Weather Channel Headline: 02-19-07
ELITES SUCK UP TO GORE'S GLOBAL FLATULENCE!

[jetson]

Forget global warming. Watch the Roy Beck thiteen minute video on immigration and overpopulation in the US. This is REAL science.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=number

[ClaireSolt]

Last night Hannity was calling Gore a hypocrite because of his use of airplanes, especially private jets. On came the Dem babes saying that it was OK because he purchased offsets. I thought of the poor schlub farmer we read about recently who is paid 2,000/an to leave his fields fallow by the Chicago carbon exchange. I guess because Gore extorted a lot of money out of Google he is now in some elite category that buys offsets and has to have Mexican peons doing the work he doesn't want to do. Are we still supposed to believe that this self-appointed high and mighty aristocrat is for the little guy? Right!

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Spot-on. Some causes & effects:
1. Gore buys CO2 offsets, farmers take land out of production, crop prices go up.
2. Gore et al influence or pass laws requiring huge amounts of ethanol in our gasoline to reduce dependence on foreign oil. Corn prices double almost overnight.
3. People in impoverished nations are starving because of self-serving elite hypocrites.

Such care and compassion from our liberal friends.

[Islander7]

I served in the USAF in meterology in the 1970s. Most of the forescasters were officers or high ranking enlisted. Their chances for promotion, and in many cases, retention were based on the overall accuracy of their forecasts. There was huge pressure placed on "techs", those who reported the actual conditions, to fudge temperature readings, cloud cover, rain/snow fall, visibility, etc. to 'make' their forecasts accurate. Thus the forecaster's accuracy was faked and the data inaccurate. Many of my fellow techs would report anything asked of them so long as no hazzards to flight operations existed.

I can only speak for my personal experience, but have every reason to believe the practice was common through out the USAF. I was once 'counseled' by a pair of Lt. Col.'s to adjust my data to 'make' the forecast of our commanding officer. I didn't do it. I was a lowly buck sargeant, but I have a sense of integrity. I served abroad and stateside. The pressures and practices were the same.

It is reasonable to assume that historical data used in climate models is obtained from military sources. With that in mind, it seems reasonable that the data is questionable.

[nosofar]

I was forced to rip him a new one.

I expect he had several already.

[ClaireSolt]

Apparently, they are peddling the notion that plowing the soil is a source of C02, so farming is bad and fallow is good. Do you learn junk like this at NYU?

[Brad from Tennessee]

Thanks, Islander. What you are saying about the military is something I have long suspected of the civilian side of the weather service.

[Poincare]

Apparently, they are peddling the notion that plowing the soil is a source of C02, so farming is bad and fallow is good.

Actually plowing soil that still has organic matter, humates and all, and leaving it wholly or partially exposed IS a source of carbon dioxide. Leaving fallow is pretty neutral. However turning the land to ruminant grazing, especially rotational grazing does put atmospheric carbon into the soil. So eat pastured beef. lamb. etc. and market forces will lower CO_2 levels. Not what the libs had in mind?