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To: milwguy
Eugenics is bogus science?

So selective breeding doesn't have an effect on phenotype?

Politically correct bullchit.

2 posted on 02/19/2007 6:44:31 AM PST by wizecrakker (Trying to behave)
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To: wizecrakker

sshhhhhh ! You aren't supposed to notice that part.

The comparison in the article is otherwise correct, however. Any science made into law by the government is usually fulfilling a socialistic/elitist political agenda.


4 posted on 02/19/2007 6:49:14 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: wizecrakker
Just as Global Warming is far more about enabling big and Bigger government, reduced liberty and increased control over free peoples than it is about climate changes, Eugenics was far more about enabling similar destructions of personal rights and liberties than it was about improving the human condition.

Under Global Warming, elites seek to restrict your choice of cars and fuels. Under Eugenics, elites such as those advising the National Socialists in Germany acted to restrict the citizens choice of mates and association. Here in the United States, programs were set up to help minorities and poor people to have fewer children, that is if you count sterilizing black women as "help".

There is plenty of information on this in Google.

Google of "margaret sanger eugenics" yields "about 65,500" hits.

For one example, this one from blackgenocide.org:

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At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South." ...
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from:
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html
6 posted on 02/19/2007 6:59:48 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: wizecrakker
"Eugenics" was more a political and social movement than a scientific one. I think that's the point being made here.

Read G.K. Chesterton's "Eugenics and other Evils" for a good overview of what was happening in the last quarter of the 19th century and the first quarter of the 20th century. Utterly frightening how eugenics and socialism/collectivism were tied at the hip, just as GW and socialism/collectivism is now.
11 posted on 02/19/2007 7:34:53 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: wizecrakker

Eugenics isn't bogus science: applied to human populations by governments and other agencies via coercion, it's bogus morality.


25 posted on 02/19/2007 12:29:52 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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