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Assault Rifles for Hunters? (Zumbo goes mad)
Remington Country website ^ | 16 FEB 2007 | Jim Zumbo

Posted on 02/18/2007 11:32:57 AM PST by xsrdx

As I write this, I'm hunting coyotes in southeastern Wyoming with Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, Greg Dennison, who is senior research engineer for Remington, and several writers. We're testing Remington's brand new .17 cal Spitfire bullet on coyotes.

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.

I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers."

Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms."

This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the praries and woods.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; secondamendment
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To: xsrdx

Bookmark to read and get mad later. If I read it now, I'll not be able to get a nap I will be steaming mad due to the article!


121 posted on 02/18/2007 2:55:49 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: xsrdx
Website is actually Outdoor Life, not Remington.

It's sponsored (paid for) by Remington.

122 posted on 02/18/2007 3:05:39 PM PST by PAR35
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To: philetus

The old CCCP even allowed hunters to have certain type of weapons with the ammunition both quantity and type controlled.

Maybe he can visit Russia to get even more ideas on gun control.


123 posted on 02/18/2007 3:12:25 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: RJL
Remington does not agree with Zumbo in any way shape or form and we will assess our relationship with him accordingly.

While continuing to sponsor his rants via banner ads at the top of the page.

Remington: all words, no action.

124 posted on 02/18/2007 3:17:45 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Beelzebubba
Well, after reading Zumbo's apology I, for one, am willing to cut him some slack.

My only problem is, he still didn't mention "Constitution" or "Second Amendment" - which is what this argument is really about and which he still doesn't seem to get. Everybody who owns or wants to own a gun is not a "hunter" or "shooter", just like everyone who owns a keyboard and uses it to express his opinion is not a blogger or journalist. But, my guess is, he will expand on his tunnel vision concerning gun rights in a follow-on "explanation". I hope so, anyway.

Zumbo's heart is probably in the right place even if his brain took a vacation for a bit. But he does need to do some more 'splainin'! And he also needs to review the Constitution to get "first things" first. With the upcoming political struggles coming against the anti-gunners, he will need to have all his ducks in a row, not just the sportman ones.

125 posted on 02/18/2007 3:18:54 PM PST by Gritty (Drastic gun proliferation means no control, accountability, or responsibility-J Vince,fmr ATF Chief)
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To: FreedomCalls

Hey Zumbo,

Why don't you go hunt with Jean Francois Kerry and get some real advice on how to flip flop? Perhaps he'll let you carry his goose, you friggin' moron!


126 posted on 02/18/2007 3:21:39 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Beelzebubba
Zumbo now writes:

But he, Outdoor Life, and the sponsor Remington have left his original article up for the Brady bunch to use. As I have suggested in another context on this thread, there is a disconnect between self serving statements and concrete actions.

127 posted on 02/18/2007 3:22:28 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Eska
I was in Banff last summer and had caribou for the first time ever. It is my new favorite wild game. Tender and tasty, Yum Yum!

-ccm

128 posted on 02/18/2007 3:25:29 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: bobby.223

I've never felt limited by a good smooth bolt action. There's no reason that the eye should ever need to leave the scope/target while rechambering.

I also shoot a pump at the skeet range, and that makes the old dogs snort a little.


129 posted on 02/18/2007 3:29:38 PM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: SampleMan

I've been known to indulge my Winchester M 12s and 42 on the clay birds. :)


130 posted on 02/18/2007 3:31:55 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DocH
Did anybody notice that he was hunting Coyotes with a .17cal rifle? Heck, I used that caliber for college sport shooting.

What a weennie.

131 posted on 02/18/2007 3:38:12 PM PST by Maigrey (Here is a quarter. Please buy a personality. It's on Sale at Big Lots! - My Sister)
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To: xsrdx

Seems like Jim Zumbo's distaste for `assault weapons' is based on economic and not principled reasons. As a rep for Remington Arms he naturally would prefer that hunters buy his firm's expensive hunting rifles rather than relatively cheap AKs. Just more good-gun-versus-ugly-gun crapola. Heard the same from ex-Sen. Bob Kerrey & others.

But that view's shortsighted, too: U.N. gungrabbers have declared scoped bolt action rifles to be "medium range sniper weapons", equally liable to be banned under their New World Social Order.

This man is not to be trusted.


132 posted on 02/18/2007 3:54:02 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: xsrdx
Well, there are hunting applications [dangerous game] where a full-auto firearm could be usable as the last line of defense against a wounded animal. However, most AK's are AKS'es - i.e. not capable of automatic fire without illegal modifications.
133 posted on 02/18/2007 4:01:19 PM PST by GSlob
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To: xsrdx

Hey Zumbo, If you read this:

You are a wuss who knows squat about the 2nd Amendment.


134 posted on 02/18/2007 4:08:07 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: mikeandike

I read that as he is sorry his a** got called to task. Read anywhere in there he retracted calling AR & AK owners "terrorists"?

It does not look like many are accepting the apology since the Brady Center already has his blog posted at their site.


135 posted on 02/18/2007 4:10:32 PM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: SJackson; Joe Brower; george76; proud_yank; Diana in Wisconsin

Rut Ro, Zumbo really surprized me with this one. He apologized later, but I can't see him writing this to start with. Most of you probably know Zumbo has been a shooting/hunting writer for many decades, one of the most recognized of today's OD writers.


136 posted on 02/18/2007 4:10:59 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: xsrdx

Wonder what the turnout will be for his talk next month:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07049/763023-358.stm


137 posted on 02/18/2007 4:11:40 PM PST by walkerk
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To: girlangler

Not any more...


138 posted on 02/18/2007 4:12:34 PM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: xsrdx

bump


139 posted on 02/18/2007 4:13:57 PM PST by VOA
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To: All

For the Prarie Dog hunters you can go to dogbegone.com and watch the Prarie Dog olympics. (warning graffic video)


140 posted on 02/18/2007 4:18:39 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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