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Clinton saw apology for war vote as insincere, aides say
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | February 18, 2007 | Patrick Healy, New York Times

Posted on 02/18/2007 7:21:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

One of the most important decisions that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., made about her bid for the presidency came late last year, when she ended a debate in her camp over whether she should repudiate her 2002 vote authorizing military action in Iraq.

Several advisers, friends and donors said in interviews that they had urged her to call her vote a mistake to appease anti-war Democrats, who play a critical role in the nominating process. Yet Clinton herself, backed by another faction, never wanted to apologize -- even if she viewed the war as a mistake -- arguing that an apology would be a gimmick.

...."... advisers think she should've uttered the three magic words -- 'I was wrong' -- but she believes it's self-evident that the Senate Iraq resolution was based on false intelligence and never should've come to a vote," said Richard Holbrooke, the former U.N. ambassador and an adviser to Clinton on foreign policy.

....Clinton believes that reversing course on Iraq would invite the charge of flip-flopping that damaged Kerry or provoke the kind of accusations of political expediency that hung over then-Vice President Al Gore in 2000 and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, in the 1990s, several advisers said. She has argued to associates in private discussions that Gore and Kerry lost, in part, because they could not convince enough Americans that they were resolute on national security, the associates said.

Clinton's image as a strong leader, in turn, is critical to her hopes of becoming the nation's first female president. According to one adviser, her internal polling indicates that a high proportion of Democrats see her as strong and tough, both assets for a female candidate who is seeking to become commander in chief. Apologizing might hurt that image, this adviser said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; flipflopper; hillary; hillarymakeover; hillbilly; piginapantsuit; politics; wot
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hillary now HAS a permanant IMAGE problem. She could have taken the high road like Leibermann, and actually would have been able to reconvert enough dems to patriotism to have a chance at the Dem nomination, especially with Joe as a running mate.

Now she has screwed the pooch.

Sorry Hillary. You just lost your only chance to be president and protectress of the American people.

21 posted on 02/18/2007 8:32:49 AM PST by Candor7 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Clinton's image as a strong leader

Now, that is funny!

22 posted on 02/18/2007 8:33:02 AM PST by Sonora
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oboma is moving to the right of Hillary. He's claiming Christianity and support for Israel.
23 posted on 02/18/2007 8:33:38 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Clinton saw apology for war vote as insincere [Obama attack ad], aides say

Fixed it.

24 posted on 02/18/2007 8:36:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: concerned about politics
Don't know if you saw this article about Chavez's family.
25 posted on 02/18/2007 8:42:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; Cincinatus' Wife

.

NEVER FORGET



HILLARY in our Oval Office =


ELIAN's -Cold Dead Eyes- in Cuba

http://www.Freerepublic.com/forum/a395a99a7020f.htm




NEVER FORGET

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26 posted on 02/18/2007 8:47:00 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So Clinton's excuse is she ALWAYS votes correctly. But if the votes turns out to be problematic later, then it was someone else's fault.

Oh-yeah that sells....but maybe only in ZIM and Hugoland.


27 posted on 02/18/2007 8:51:16 AM PST by rod1
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 02/18/2007 8:52:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Don't know if you saw this article about Chavez's family.

........“May God forgive me for what I’m about to say, but in cases like this, I swear to you, if I could order someone to be executed, I would order him executed,” President Chávez said last year...
____________________________________________

Visions of Stalin and thousands dead are dancing in my head. The democrats actually adore and praise this man!

29 posted on 02/18/2007 8:52:31 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Stupid dems...there are no "do overs". The intelligence was the same across the world...even Saddam's own generals believed the units to either side of them possessed WMD's.
30 posted on 02/18/2007 8:53:58 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: presently no screen name

I feel sorry for any fence that she straddles.


31 posted on 02/18/2007 8:56:28 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Americans, the so-called silent majority, better wake up from their stupor, take note of what damage Liberals and RINO's are doing to our country and our children and grandchildren's futures, and they better start speaking up while they still have the freedom to do so. Those Republicans that sat out the last election bear as much blame as the anti-American, anti-military crowd that are desecrating our heritage and destroying our future.


32 posted on 02/18/2007 8:57:23 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: highlander_UW

IMO, there is no way that "every" intelligence agency in the world was "wrong." The WMDs are still there (buried in tunnels out in the desert) or they were moved to Syria.


33 posted on 02/18/2007 8:58:43 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: highlander_UW
Stupid dems...there are no "do overs". The intelligence was the same across the world

So Hillary is admitting her husband bombed Iraq to distract from Monica's testimony? It really was a multimillion dollar Wag the Dog?

She's admitting it ?????

34 posted on 02/18/2007 9:00:15 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: avacado

Just you wait. If anyone ever brings this up to Her Thighness, she will just point out that what The Clinton® did was the right thing, and it was so well done that it took care of the problem once and for all. And, of course, she will say that Bush is so stupid and incompetent that he never realized that The Clinton® had fixed everything.


35 posted on 02/18/2007 9:01:35 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Remember when they took Elian to a Democrat fundraiser?


36 posted on 02/18/2007 9:04:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ExTexasRedhead
IMO, there is no way that "every" intelligence agency in the world was "wrong." The WMDs are still there (buried in tunnels out in the desert) or they were moved to Syria.

The WMDs are in the Euphrates River. There's tunnels under Iraq that go to the edge. That's why they haven't detected them yet. They haven't looked there.
(Gut feeling.)

37 posted on 02/18/2007 9:05:47 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: monocle
“Every word she writes is a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the’.”

— Mary McCarthy, on Lillian Hellman.


38 posted on 02/18/2007 9:07:21 AM PST by dighton
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To: Fresh Wind
Just you wait. If anyone ever brings this up to Her Thighness, she will just point out that what The Clinton® did was the right thing, and it was so well done that it took care of the problem once and for all.

Well, piles of sand can be a really dangerous thing.(s)

39 posted on 02/18/2007 9:08:20 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: All; Cincinatus' Wife



Yes,

I do remember when they brought Little ELIAN to a Democrat fundraiser.

This after a Democrat President CLINTON had already put Little ELIAN into the Communist Cell that was brought up from CASTRO's Cuba to encircle his once Free soul at the same Andrews Air Force Base that houses Air Force One.

.


40 posted on 02/18/2007 9:18:28 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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