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‘These are the times that try men’s souls’
The Johnstown Tribune-Democrat ^ | 18 February 2007 | Pedro O. Vega

Posted on 02/18/2007 6:49:58 AM PST by Teófilo

By Pedro O. Vega

As published today in the Johnstown Tribune Democrat

The situation in which we find ourselves in Iraq because of the war on terror defies my attempts at originality to describe.

I find myself in need of laying hold of aphorisms and clichés said by the truly Great Ones, and some not-so-great.

The first one that comes to mind is from Thomas Paine, an American Founding Father, written in 1776. It’s one I used in a previous column, one I keep returning too because of its sheer wisdom: “These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”

A movement is afoot in Congress to remove funding from military stabilization operations in Iraq. The nonbinding resolution designed to disagree with the president’s military “surge” currently being debated in the House and Senate represents the first step in that direction.

The resolution is mute when it comes to offering an alternate plan ensuring victory and protecting our national interest in the region.

“Summer soldiers” and “sunshine patriots” are intent on prolonging the war on terror for two more generations by hastening a unilateral retreat from Baghdad without giving current operations a chance to work.

Emboldened politicians and pundits now behave as generals, claiming to be masters of the retrograde fighting maneuver and the pursuit of peace.

Another saying comes to mind, this one by that great Pennsylvanian, Benjamin Franklin: “There never was a good war, or a bad peace.”

Not knowing the original context of Franklin’s declaration, I am left to deal with its meaning at face value.

I agree with him that all wars are bad, but it goes without saying that some are worse than others. On occasion, there’s such a thing as a “bad peace” if this “peace” becomes a cover for defeat, humiliation and eventual surrender to the will of the enemy.

Franklin’s actions in the field of diplomacy belied his own assertion. Once converted to the patriot’s cause, Franklin ensured that the nascent United States had enough weapons to win the war. His diplomatic skills doubled the size of the country at the end of the revolution, at the expense of the British.

If aversion to war and love of peace ever moved Franklin to appease the British, he never showed it.

Thomas Friedman is credited for coining the “Pottery Barn rule” of foreign policy. That is: “You break it, you own it.”

This is what Colin Powell, retired Army general and then secretary of state, told President Bush before the start of the war in Iraq.

Events are about to disprove the logic of this common-sense assertion. We went into Iraq and broke the status quo there, and now our armchair generals want us to retreat without fulfilling our responsibilities, despite an already dreadful investment in American lives and treasure.

We want to walk away; we don’t want to own the situation. But the fact is that we do.

Neville Chamberlain returned from the Munich Conference in 1938, waving a piece of paper signed by Adolf Hitler and saying, “My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British prime minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time.”

Winston Churchill wryly replied, “You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war.”

Many Chamberlains run around today in the guise of politicians and pundits, waving papers and declaring “peace for our time.”

Their views might even prevail and become both law and accepted wisdom. But by choosing peace over dishonor, they will ensure the coming of even more war.

Sadly, summer soldiers, sunshine patriots and enlightened pundits alone are not going to bear the bitter consequences of failure in Iraq. They will befall all of us, our children and our children’s children.

One more aphorism is in order. George Santayana once said: “Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

As we get ready to abandon Iraq, we’re about to relearn this lesson in spades. Truly, these are the times that try men’s souls.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Pennsylvania
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To: Teófilo; BIGLOOK; metalurgist

You're a self-important gasbag and a traitor.
How's that for "rhetoric," Pedrito...?



61 posted on 02/18/2007 10:42:22 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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To: smoothsailing

Scrolling down and seeing that face dang near gave my a heart attack!!!


62 posted on 02/18/2007 10:42:41 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: smoothsailing; american_ranger; Just A Nobody; M. Espinola
What did you do during the war on terror, Daddy?

I was a demoncrat. Now , shut up and put on your burka. We have to go to the Mosque.

ht american_ranger

63 posted on 02/18/2007 10:43:24 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: smoothsailing

Speaking of PA "writers" - whatcha hear from Zelena Sito these days?


64 posted on 02/18/2007 10:44:27 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave


I told you FR is heavily infected

Read that insane trash being peddled by a Murtha quisling on this thread!

The flags are little clue...


65 posted on 02/18/2007 10:45:11 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: george76
Ya know george, I saw that earlier today and it really made me stop and think..........

What traitorous human debris we have in the US CONgre$$

God Bless and protect our troops from those that hate them!

66 posted on 02/18/2007 10:46:34 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: devolve
I told you FR is heavily infected

Whew! I thought I was the only one that noticed!

67 posted on 02/18/2007 10:47:48 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
Scrolling down and seeing that face dang near gave my a heart attack!!!

Then this should calm you down! LOL!

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68 posted on 02/18/2007 10:48:02 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: devolve

Oh gee, it's not pimping one blog, it's pimping FOUR blogs!!


69 posted on 02/18/2007 10:48:21 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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To: Just A Nobody

These liberals are amazing.

If we were to lose this global war started by Islam...they would lose their rights to vote, go to school, hold a job, drive a car, listen to music...


70 posted on 02/18/2007 10:50:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: smoothsailing

nice work.


71 posted on 02/18/2007 10:51:42 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Just A Nobody

Perhaps I will see you there ... I'm gonna try to make it this time in my little motorhome.


72 posted on 02/18/2007 10:52:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: devolve
yes...

FR is heavily infected

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73 posted on 02/18/2007 10:52:28 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Just A Nobody
Like the rest of the "writers" in this Pennsylvania neck of the woods, when she shows up around here, she writes incessant meandering navel-gazing gibberish to explain her self-proclaimed "conservatism".

Her threads don't attrack much attention anymore, I can't imagine why.

74 posted on 02/18/2007 10:56:23 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
attrack=attract

Geez

75 posted on 02/18/2007 11:00:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: george76
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76 posted on 02/18/2007 11:02:46 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

ROTFLOL! Yes it did!


77 posted on 02/18/2007 11:22:43 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: george76
they would lose their rights to vote, go to school, hold a job, drive a car, listen to music...

If THEY were the only ones losing those rights I would have to rethink my position. But alas, we know they would not be the only ones to lose.

78 posted on 02/18/2007 11:24:58 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: A. Pole
Perhaps, but UK had no other cards to play at that time.

He could have no. Admittedly, Hitler would have remained blase and invaded the Sudetenland anyway. But Britain would have given notice, and maybe have given Hitler a moment's pause.

'Course, we'll never know. But history has been a lot kinder to Churchill's riposte than Chamberlain's initial blurt.

CA....

79 posted on 02/18/2007 11:26:52 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: MHGinTN
WooHoo! I would love to see it!

Went to an RV show last Sunday and spotted a real beaut!

Let me know if you need a place to park it for free.

May I add you to the "Planning to Attend" or "Hoping to Attend" list? ;*)

80 posted on 02/18/2007 11:27:35 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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