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Utah killer's father was in Bosnian Muslim army
American Congress for Truth ^ | February 15, 2007

Posted on 02/17/2007 8:03:57 PM PST by PRePublic

Utah killer's father was in Bosnian Muslim army

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Utah killer's father was in Bosnian Muslim army

Serbianna.com

SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina-The Bosnian teen who killed five shoppers at a Salt Lake City mall fled the war in his homeland at age 10, neighbors and friends said Wednesday.

Sulejman Talovic, an 18-year-old immigrant fatally shot by police after Monday's rampage, was only 4 when he and his mother fled their village of Talovici on foot after Serbian forces overran it in 1993, people close to the family told The Associated Press.

Talovic lived as a refugee in Bosnia from 1993 to 1998, when his family moved to the United States, they said.

During that period, he spent some time in Srebrenica. Before being captured vy Serb forces, Srebrenica was used by Bosnian Muslims to massacre all the Serbs in all of the nearby villages only for themselves to be captured in the fall of the town.

The teen gunman left Srebrenica two years before the massacre, but acquaintances suggested it may have left an indelible mark on the quiet little boy they knew.

"That's why I'm convinced the war did this in Utah," said Murat Avdic, a friend of the family. "There cannot be any other reason."

Avdic, 54, said that when the village of Talovici fell, the family split.

"Sulejman and his mother walked to Srebrenica, and from there were later evacuated by a U.N. convoy," he said.

"Suljo, the father, headed over the mountains and forests with his comrades as well. Many left the village, but only a few made it."

Avdic described the family as "very normal, very decent and quiet."

A 1995 peace agreement ended the war but left their native Talovici in the Serb-controlled half of the country to which the family did not dare return.

"We know they ended up in the United States. We never saw them again. It was a wonderful family," said Zijad Cerkic, 33, the family's next-door neighbor in government-controlled Tuzla.

Apart from eight elderly returnees, Talovici village has been a virtual ghost town since 1993. All but two houses are in ruins, including the home of Sulejman's family, said former neighbor Adem Huric, 38.

Many mujahedeen from Muslim states came in Bosnia to fight in 1992-95 war and committed monstruous atrocities againsy Serb civilians.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: bosnianarmy; muslims; rop; utahkiller
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1 posted on 02/17/2007 8:04:00 PM PST by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

OK -- the mothers ALWAYS say he was a sweet little boy (I am a mom ...), the neighbors always say they were quiet and nice. I SAY -- that is denial AND irrelevant. Sounds like his dad fled there after being part of the Muslim atrocity perpetrators.

I am sick of the sob-stories.


2 posted on 02/17/2007 8:12:44 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: PRePublic

The link you used http://www.americancongressfortruth.org/URL doesn't go to the article.

Please provide a working link.


3 posted on 02/17/2007 8:12:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: bboop

I read another article that portrayed the dad as just as horrified as the rest of us and suicidal over what his son had done and was ready to write it off as the same apologist BS. That was until I got to the part where he said that he thought someone had supplied the guns, shooting skills, and the mission to use them on to his son. I don't know obviously what role his father had in the war (maybe he committed atrocities maybe he didn't) and whether his family is extremist, but the fact the dad suspects someone recruited and trained his son to do what he did makes it sound like there's probably someone really nasty attending the same mosque who should be detained and interrogated for terror links.


4 posted on 02/17/2007 8:21:25 PM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: PRePublic

Clinton's monster...Clinton's legacy...will affect American lives for generations to come...


5 posted on 02/17/2007 8:24:13 PM PST by citizencon
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To: Admin Moderator

http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/ArchDetails.aspx?id=132


6 posted on 02/17/2007 8:34:11 PM PST by Nachum
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To: citizencon

What is the significance of the killer's father being in the Bosnian army? Is the Bosnian army a criminal organization, and is Bosnia one giant criminal conspiracy? No. They came to America after the war and the kid was a loner and fell in with the wrong company. That's all.


7 posted on 02/17/2007 8:47:05 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: citizencon

What is the significance of the killer's father being in the Bosnian army? Is the Bosnian army a criminal organization, and is Bosnia one giant criminal conspiracy? No. They came to America after the war and the kid was a loner and fell in with the wrong company. That's all.


8 posted on 02/17/2007 8:47:14 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: GAB-1955
"fell in with the wrong company"

I'm just catching up on the story. What do you mean by that? Is there a non-Islamic back story that makes sense here?

9 posted on 02/17/2007 8:56:39 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: bboop

His employer and former teachers said the same thing, however. I fault the juvenile court system, which didn't take his violent threats seriously enough, and didn't put them in the context of his child-from-war-zone background, and insist on intensive, long-term intervention.


10 posted on 02/17/2007 8:59:37 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: verum ago

Or maybe the father is just grasping for an explanation.


11 posted on 02/17/2007 9:00:53 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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["Srebrenica was used by Bosnian Muslims to massacre all the Serbs in all of the nearby villages...]

Well, if we want to be silly about the matter, maybe N. Oric should take some blame for this episode (?). After all, Oric got much "better justice" - credit for time served (2 years).
12 posted on 02/17/2007 9:00:59 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: GAB-1955

The problem (reason for the Bosnian war) in Bosnia according to the MSM reports was that the Serb Army was performing ethnic cleansing, i.e killing Bosnian Muslims. According to other reports by International Organizations on Human Rights, Muslims were pouring over the border and ethnicly cleansing the Serbs by killing Christian Serbs. It actually seemed to be tit for tat according to sources I read.

This article says the father was in the Muslim army in Bosnia. The village this family came from was probably wiped out by the Serbian army, maybe in retalliatiion for them bombing or terrorizing a Christian community.

What went on inBosnia was a microcosm of Sudan(where Muslims are in charge) and some of the African natioins that are undergoing civil war.
By the by, where was Congress in cutting off funds for Bill's little air war in Serbia and what is it still costing us there today? I want a non-binding resolution that funds will be cut off and given to the Dems for their social programs.(rolling eyes at sarc.)
vaudine


13 posted on 02/17/2007 9:01:54 PM PST by vaudine
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The teen gunman left Srebrenica two years before the massacre, but acquaintances suggested it may have left an indelible mark on the quiet little boy they knew.

Yeah; sure...The Mark of the Beast.

14 posted on 02/17/2007 9:14:36 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: citizencon
Clinton's monster...

This will include the following two persons and possibly a third.

(1)Christianne Amanpour.

(2)Louise Arbour (Canada)

(3) Not proven yet, but she was said to have urged "Bill" to start the whole sorry mess.

Damn their souls.

15 posted on 02/17/2007 9:21:11 PM PST by Peter Libra
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16 posted on 02/17/2007 9:30:39 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: PRePublic

Did they change their name upon immigration, taking the name of the village as their last name, like many terrorist fighters do, i.e. al Yemeni, al Libya, etc?

Or, was grandpa the hereditary village honcho, and the village was named for the family?

Just curious; don't expect an answer from them.


17 posted on 02/17/2007 10:28:31 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

President Clinton is a Real Hero - isn't he?


18 posted on 02/17/2007 11:50:57 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Nachum

Thank you Nachum, My apologies to Admin!


19 posted on 02/18/2007 12:21:57 AM PST by PRePublic (Arab Racism, Slavery, Africa)
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That is why we should have let the Serbs fight back.


20 posted on 02/18/2007 5:21:37 AM PST by omega4179 (Hitler had a "Rockstar" personality and was an articulate speaker.)
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