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Climate Change's Cold Economics
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 15, 2007 | Jeffrey Ball

Posted on 02/15/2007 4:19:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

With mandatory curbs on U.S. global-warming emissions looking increasingly likely in the next several years, industries are starting to argue over who will pay for the cleanup. One thing is clear: Whatever the cost, it will get passed along to consumers.

A new report from the utility industry's think tank, the Electric Power Research Institute, says the U.S. utility sector could ratchet back its global-warming emissions to 1990 levels by 2030. That would be a major feat, given that emissions are projected to rise significantly over the next few decades.

But Congress is unlikely to boost taxpayer-funded energy research by enough to develop the necessary technologies, says Jeffry Sterba, chairman of the institute, who is expected to present the study today at an energy-industry conference. One option he said utilities are considering proposing: that the government allow them to tack an additional modest charge onto consumers' electric bills to raise roughly $2 billion a year to cover the cost.

As the Democrats who now control Congress start pushing for federal global-warming regulations, industry heavyweights are changing their stance on the issue. Exxon Mobil Corp., which has long opposed emission constraints, now is talking about how such rules should be structured. And the Edison Electric Institute, the electric-utility industry's chief trade group, announced last week that it is dropping its longstanding opposition to mandatory emission limits.

The corporate change is a concession to political reality. Even if they would prefer not to have an emissions limit, industries targeted by regulators are angling to shape whatever they get slapped with to minimize their portion of the bill.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; emissions; globalwarming; rentseekers

1 posted on 02/15/2007 4:19:23 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 02/15/2007 4:25:36 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Doesn't sound like they think Bush will veto carbon credit schemes.


3 posted on 02/15/2007 4:34:25 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
So how do you get the smoke and CO2 back in the volcano? Mt Pinatubo in the Philippines made more greenhouse gasses that the industrial revolution. If we do undo the volcanoes, will we then be starting an ice age?
4 posted on 02/15/2007 4:42:11 PM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>>With mandatory curbs on U.S. global-warming emissions looking increasingly likely in the next several years, industries are starting to argue over who will pay for the cleanup. One thing is clear: Whatever the cost, it will get passed along to consumers.<<


That's what happens when one party is unified and the other party splits needlessly - the unified side wins.

Conservatives have wasted too much time arguing with the obvious data that the surface temperature is warming instead of focusing on "why" and "what are the other possible causes?" and "this is slow, we have time to investigate."

While liberals are united in assuming that the fact of global warming means man is to blame.

Of course we are losing.


5 posted on 02/15/2007 4:46:02 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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6 posted on 02/15/2007 4:50:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Duncan Hunter: Hope of America)
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To: mountainlyons
"So how do you get the smoke and CO2 back in the volcano? Mt Pinatubo in the Philippines made more greenhouse gasses that the industrial revolution. If we do undo the volcanoes, will we then be starting an ice age?"

Clearing my throat and doing my best William F. Buckley voice. It is complicated formula that is a ratio of money passing from industries that will make money from this nonsense to the pockets of corrupt politicians. It is all for the children of course.
7 posted on 02/15/2007 4:54:13 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: samm1148

Right on or as I used to say right arm and hay down.


8 posted on 02/15/2007 4:58:45 PM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: gondramB
That's what happens when one party is unified and the other party splits needlessly

I tend to think that this is what happens when two parties merge...
9 posted on 02/15/2007 5:42:37 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: gondramB
As we spend billions to regulate CO2, it may take ten years to find what cause the earth's temperature to increase or decrease. I just want to know who to sue when they find out CO2 is not causing global warming.
10 posted on 02/15/2007 5:47:24 PM PST by steveab
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To: P-40

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I tend to think that this is what happens when two parties merge...<<

On the budget deficit, spending (particu pork spending), border security and government intrusion into private areas etc I agree with you.

But I think the success of the rush to assume that global warming is human caused and that we have to spend a trillion dollars to fix it with no time to study the situation is the result of liberals being unified while conservatives dicker over whether the data from a dozen different disciplines are all fake.

Recent global warming of the earths surface is a fact and the sooner conservatives unify, accept that fact and start working to prevent giant rushed spending while we cripple industry, the better the chance we will have of slowing this train down. Its already left the station.


11 posted on 02/15/2007 6:17:54 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: steveab

>>As we spend billions to regulate CO2, it may take ten years to find what cause the earth's temperature to increase or decrease. I just want to know who to sue when they find out CO2 is not causing global warming.<<

If that happens would care to bet that people stepping up to take responsibility will be few and far between while those claiming they had doubts all along will be front and center?


12 posted on 02/15/2007 6:20:17 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The USA must enroll in Kyoto. The USA will buy "carbon credits" from failed authoritarian regimes that do not produce anything useful. This will not reduce the actual carbon dioxide emitted into the atmosphere but it will provide a revenue stream to those who wish to destroy Western Civilization! The UN can Tap this revenue divorcing UN policies from UN funding.


13 posted on 02/15/2007 6:23:29 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: mountainlyons

The United States will just have to pay more. While we didn't have anything to do with the volcanoes in the Philipines and elsewhere, we do have the most money. Add to that political correctness, white guilt, and the liberal hatred of the successful, you wind up with a screwed over Americna economy.

It's ALL about the money, and the goal is redistributing our wealth.


14 posted on 02/15/2007 6:51:56 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: ricks_place

Bingo!!!!


15 posted on 02/15/2007 6:53:08 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: mountainlyons
So how do you get the smoke and CO2 back in the volcano? Mt Pinatubo in the Philippines made more greenhouse gasses that the industrial revolution

Man to volcanoes is 100:1 (for CO2). Pinatubo in 1991 put out less than 1/100 of what man did that year.

16 posted on 02/16/2007 3:11:25 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: steveab
I just want to know who to sue...

You can sue God, but serving the subpoena might be a bit of a problem.

17 posted on 02/16/2007 3:21:06 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: gondramB
conservatives dicker over whether the data from a dozen different disciplines are all fake.

Not that they are fake, but if the conclusions are valid. That may or may not be the case. But if conservatives in this administration would take the time to talk about their accomplishments in dealing with several problems at once, one of which would include global warming if it is manmade, then they would be better off.
18 posted on 02/16/2007 5:34:55 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: xcamel

Bump for Lunch.


19 posted on 02/16/2007 5:41:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: mountainlyons
Mt Pinatubo in the Philippines made more greenhouse gasses that the industrial revolution.

This is incorrect. Volcanoes are not a major source of CO2 emissions.

Gases: Man versus the Volcanoes

20 posted on 02/16/2007 10:11:49 AM PST by cogitator
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