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Posted on 02/15/2007 2:29:16 PM PST by milwguy
A new report on climate over the world’s southernmost continent shows that temperatures during the late 20th century did not climb as had been predicted by many global climate models.
Newswise — A new report on climate over the world’s southernmost continent shows that temperatures during the late 20th century did not climb as had been predicted by many global climate models.
This comes soon after the latest report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that strongly supports the conclusion that the Earth’s climate as a whole is warming, largely due to human activity.
It also follows a similar finding from last summer by the same research group that showed no increase in precipitation over Antarctica in the last 50 years. Most models predict that both precipitation and temperature will increase over Antarctica with a warming of the planet.
David Bromwich, professor of geography and researcher with the Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State University, reported on this work at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science at San Francisco.
“It’s hard to see a global warming signal from the mainland of Antarctica right now,” he said. “Part of the reason is that there is a lot of variability there. It’s very hard in these polar latitudes to demonstrate a global warming signal. This is in marked contrast to the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula that is one of the most rapidly warming parts of the Earth.”
Bromwich says that the problem rises from several complications. The continent is vast, as large as the United States and Mexico combined. Only a small amount of detailed data is available – there are perhaps only 100 weather stations on that continent compared to the thousands spread across the U.S. and Europe. And the records that we have only date back a half-century.
“The best we can say right now is that the climate models are somewhat inconsistent with the evidence that we have for the last 50 years from continental Antarctica.
“We’re looking for a small signal that represents the impact of human activity and it is hard to find it at the moment,” he said.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2006-08-18-ozone-hole_x.htm?csp=34 http://www.theage.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2003/08/21/1061434981056.html
These buffoons can't even predict the ozone hole with any accuracy, yet we are to believe thay have mastered the global climate model? PLeaaasssseeee
Ozone Hole Over Antarctica Has Shrunk, Split in Two
AP
Graphic shows southern hemisphere with ozone in the air measured in Dobson units.
Tuesday, October 01, 2002
WASHINGTON — The ozone hole over Antarctica is markedly smaller this year than in the last few years and has split in two, government scientists reported Monday.
Ellen Goodman made "Global Warming" the State religion, in violation of the 1st Amendment, and now if you disagree you're Nazi.
Si in 2002 the scientists said the ozone hole had shrunk and split in two and would repair itself by 2050, then in 2003 they said it had grown again, and then in 2006 they said it had stopped growing but was not getting smaller. Does anyone see a pattern here, I do, and that is they just keeping throwing up sh!t and hope the masses will believe they know what the hell they are talking about. Far be it for anyone to question their wisdom, or worse still, do a little googling and show them for the charlatans they are.
Global Climate Change is a RELIGION, not a science.
ANYONE that questions the Gospel of St. Gore is a heretic, and all non-believers must be purged, silenced, and decertified...
It's the only "Science" that requires a POLITICAL science degree to study, and political panels to decide what it is...
If they'd stop looking for someone to blame and spent time trying to understand the climatic cycles we'd all be a lot better off.
Equally interesting is the uncertaintly these scientist attach to the limited data record for Antartica. I suspect that there are large areas of the Southern Hemisphere with equally sparse weather stations and those that exist may well be relatively recent. This suggests that the data may be heavily biased towards developed countries and increases the likelihood that the data is distorted by urban concentrations - Boston is 1 or 2 degrees warmer than where I live. Given that weather stations congregate where people are (I wonder why?/s) I sure hope the models have a big correction factors for these effects. It would be kind of silly to find out that since human beings like to be warm or cool and they therefore warm the air where they live then this has been translated into Global Warming!!!.
As to the one place in Antartica that warmed appreciably - the anomaly suggests another cause such as a movement of a current. Alas I am not familar with the flow of currents around the Antartic.
let me be the first to say...IT'S BUSH's FAULT!!!
Well then, those Antarctic Temperatures must be morons and are apparently being paid by oil companies.....
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA! Hey! Al oGre! BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!
The thesis of The Crack in the Cosmic Egg was that we create the reality we seek. By looking hard enough, they will find what they're looking for.
The refutation of that thesis, though, is that alchemy turned out to be a dead end. While it does seem, in quantum mechanics, that the act of measurement collapses the probability wave and gives wave/particle based on what we are testing for, this hasn't been shown to work in the macroworld.
Most likely, they'll just define 'small' to be so tiny that anything at hand can be labeled as human caused.
This story is almost as funny yesterday's "Meeting on Global Warming Cancelled Because of Ice Storm." Man, that was rich!
-PJ
There is a web site that highlights this effect by graphing the annual temperature changes of two nearby cities.
Here is a revealing graph of both West Point, up on the Hudson River and Central Park, in New York City:
http://www.john-daly.com/stations/WestPoint-NY.gif
from:
http://www.john-daly.com/stations/stations.htm
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The correction factor they use is 0.05°C. That's not much.
This and other information lead the IPCC to conclude that the UHI effect makes at most a contribution of 0.05°C to the warming observed over the past century.
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