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To: Wonder Warthog
"There's no way in hell that we even REMOTELY know all the sources and sinks for CO2. To assume so is the height of arrogance."

Sinks. perhaps not. Recent sources, yes: CO2 from fossil fuels has a different distribution of carbon 13/14 than CO2 from other proposed sources, the he observed isotopic trends are very good fit to CO2 from fossil fuel.

61 posted on 02/14/2007 2:01:34 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Sinks. perhaps not. Recent sources, yes: CO2 from fossil fuels has a different distribution of carbon 13/14 than CO2 from other proposed sources, the he observed isotopic trends are very good fit to CO2 from fossil fuel.

I thought that it was the ratio of C13 to C12. And the discussions that I have read make me wonder about the accuracy of the methodology. The source that I read described that the most common Carbon isotope is C12, but C13 is increased in the atmosphere when fossil fuels are burned. So the ratio of C13/C12 in today's atmosphere is compared against air captured from ice cores and other sources from the past for the ratios during those periods. Increases in the C13/C12 ratios indicate more fossil-fuel-derived Carbon. The problem I have with that is the levels of C13 are about 1% of the levels of C12, so you are talking about a very small ratio, and therefore the potential for error in comparing is high.
76 posted on 02/14/2007 4:08:49 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Sinks. perhaps not. Recent sources, yes: CO2 from fossil fuels has a different distribution of carbon 13/14 than CO2 from other proposed sources, the he observed isotopic trends are very good fit to CO2 from fossil fuel.

My understanding is that C-12 in the atmosphere tends to get turned into C-14 as a result of solar radiation; Carbon-14 dating is predicated upon the assumption that while something is alive, the percentage of C-14 within it will be roughly equal to that of the atmosphere; after it dies, the percentage of C-14 will constantly decay.

Fossil fuels would have a lower percentage of C-14 in them than the atmosphere as a whole, but so would any other natural sources of "old" carbon.

91 posted on 02/14/2007 7:20:40 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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