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A very good distillation of the issues.
1 posted on 02/14/2007 7:33:27 AM PST by jonno
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"Two facts are known. One is that the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide has been climbing exponentially."

Nope---even THAT ain't so. The graphs of CO2 increase that I've seen don't bear any resemblance to an exponential curve.

2 posted on 02/14/2007 7:37:43 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: jonno; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; Mrs. Don-o; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on graphic for full GW rundown


3 posted on 02/14/2007 7:42:36 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: jonno
An absolutely reasonable and well thought out article. It has NO PLACE IN THE CURRENT DEBATE, I'm afraid....

The ideal approach would be a "just-in-case" climate-change mitigation plan. If global warming stays at or under current baseline projections, we probably would do best to simply just adapt. However, if global warming accelerates, we would want to take strong steps to counteract it.

I'm of a similar mind, although to me, the best "just in case" thing to do requires decades of construction, that is, a massive increase in the number of Nuclear Powerplants. I say we start now, hedging our bets.

5 posted on 02/14/2007 7:43:31 AM PST by Paradox (Secular Conservative, thank God!)
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To: jonno
"Global warming deniers" are the new atheists, which means that belief in man-made global warming is a religious belief.
7 posted on 02/14/2007 8:06:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: jonno
"Two facts are known. One is that the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide has been climbing exponentially."

Wow!

This means that atmospheric CO2 on earth causes sunspots/solar activity!


8 posted on 02/14/2007 8:11:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: jonno

The author still has us operating from a believer's perspective.


16 posted on 02/14/2007 8:50:54 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: jonno

Oh, goody, just what I need, someone in the MSM telling me how to think about an issue.

Before you flame me, I don't care if he is conservative or pegs the political meter at 3X the liberalism of Hillary. The MSM's job (conservative AND liberal, alike) is not to tell anyone how to think, but to report on facts and allow the reader to determine their own conclusion.


17 posted on 02/14/2007 9:11:09 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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A 1 degree over the last 100 years of warming has witnessed the following:

A doubling of life expectency world wide.

A end of famine not related to political revolution.

The near extinction of Slavery.

A massive decrease in infant mortality.

An increase in forest covered acreage in North America.

The birth of the environmental movement.

The birth of dozens of new democracy's.

The internet.

Man walking on the moon.

Should I go on? None of these quality of life benchmarks were improving during the little ice age, also known as the Dark Ages. The last cooling Trend from 1940 to 1970 brought us WWII and the Carter Administration...

I say bring on another 1 Degree over another 100 years!

-- lates
-- jrawk


18 posted on 02/14/2007 9:57:25 AM PST by jrawk (RAWK)
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To: jonno

>Those who would try to reduce the issue of global warming to a yes-or-no question ("do you believe or do you deny?") are not scientists.

Unfortunately, too many here on FreeRepublic are just as bad as the alarmists in that respect.


24 posted on 02/14/2007 11:50:40 AM PST by chipengineer
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"global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers"

THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION The Gospel of St. Gore!!!

The Party has determined that all non-believers are heretics, and must be silenced, denounced, and decertified!

The Atheist Rapture is upon us! The ONLY thing that will save us is electing St. ALGORE as Global Dictator, and accepting Radical Socialism as our only Savior!

Let the Inquisition BEGIN!


29 posted on 02/14/2007 12:14:05 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: jonno

BUMP!


35 posted on 02/14/2007 12:48:36 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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If I'm not mistaken the issue of global warming is one that could heed the advice of Robert Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury and the last peer to be Prime Minister of Great Britain.
If you listen to doctors, nothing is healthy. If you listen to soldiers, nothing is safe. If you listen to clergymen, nothing is innocent."
48 posted on 02/14/2007 1:28:42 PM PST by quadrant
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To: sauropod


62 posted on 02/14/2007 2:02:10 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: jonno
How about the terrorist deniers, do they count? Peloser is top of that list.

If man caused global warming, then obviously man can fix it.

Where is the proof that CO2 can cause the Earth to warm and is not just a signal of natural warming. There is little doubt the Earth is warming, been doing that since the end of the last ice age 15,000 years ago -- So what caused the last ice age to end?
113 posted on 02/15/2007 6:32:35 PM PST by Tarpon
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The author still implicitly accepts that all the global warming that may be occurring is man-made and therefore addressable by shutting down civilization if it is serious. He is skeptical of rates not substance. The Sun's increased activity and evidence that the other planets are affected also doesn't figure.


115 posted on 02/15/2007 6:42:48 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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So lets assume that CO2 causes global warming, how does a carbon tax reduce it? It doesn't. How do alternate fuels reduce CO2, they don't, in fact most increase the total CO2. What does reduce CO2 emissions is using nuclear power for electric generation. Make all new power plants nuclear, and retrofit old power plants as possible. The PBMR technology which is now going into production in South Africa looks real promising. One additional point is nuclear power could be used to generate hydrogen cheaply.

Don't want nuclear, then you don't want to fix the problem you just want the tax money. Quite simple really.
132 posted on 02/16/2007 6:26:58 PM PST by Tarpon
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