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Rudy the Rude
National Review Online ^ | February 14, 2007 | David Freddoso

Posted on 02/14/2007 6:49:58 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA

As a presidential candidate, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is for real. Despite his unorthodox Republicanism — his support for legal abortion, his embrace of gun-control, and his unwillingness to act against court-imposed same-sex marriages — Giuliani now leads in several polls for the GOP nomination.

The common wisdom is that most Republican voters know nothing of Rudy’s social liberalism, and so his support will dwindle as they learn more. But this may prove wrong. Knowledgeable folks on the Right, disheartened by a presidential field that lacks viable, trustworthy conservatives, are talking themselves into supporting the man who earned the title of “America’s Mayor” after his performance on 9/11.

The argument is easier to make than it might seem at first. Rudy’s transgressions, conservatives can tell themselves, are smaller than they appear, particularly considering the shortcomings of the other candidates. Even if he is pro-choice on abortion, Giuliani has said that he would appoint the same kind of justices as President Bush has — the John Roberts variety, likely to overturn Roe v. Wade. And yes, Rudy supported gun control in the Five Boroughs, but as he told Sean Hannity on February 5, it was just a practical matter for a man inheriting a lawless city — some gun-control was “necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at [annually in New York City]…”

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: giuliani; greatman; nextpresident; paleosmearjob; partysplitter; pseudocon; rudyganda; rudygiuliani; rudyspam
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To: pgkdan

Those pictures of Rudy in drag, well they'd love him in Virginia Highlands/Little Five Points. Don't think he'd get a warm welcome in say, Walton County.


41 posted on 02/14/2007 11:51:02 AM PST by panthermom (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: panthermom

OK...you're talking about the Atlanta area. Right?


42 posted on 02/14/2007 11:59:37 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: panthermom

I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes!


43 posted on 02/14/2007 12:00:19 PM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: phillyfanatic
If Newt could actually be nominated and have a chance to win, I would vote for him. As it is, Rudy G is going to get my vote and pray that he picks an accomplised conserv VP for the ticket.

I understand that sentiment and I agree. However, both Reagan and Bush stuck with their conservative message during the campaign and were unexpectedly elected against left wingers. Republican losers normally follow the advice of political consultants and move to the mushy middle rather than sticking to their conservative guns. Bush is in trouble with his base because of the way he has governed on certain issues, not the way he campaigned, but he is still generally conservative and has accomplished some good things. However, if it were possible to run I doubt he would be reelected.

The point being that few conservatives stay with their conservative values throughout a campaign so rarely does the public get a chance to choose between liberal and conservative. It is usually middle/left against middle/right with no clearcut difference.

Therefore, if Newt would stay on message, as I expect he would , he may be more electable than we think. Rudy is already in the middle so he won't have to adjust.

44 posted on 02/14/2007 12:13:02 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

What I find the most shocking is how many here on FR jumped on the Giuliani for President bandwagon from the beginning knowing full well that he has liberal social values. Do they shop for cars the same way?

Imagine this scenario. "I really need to buy a new car. I have a list of very important features that I want this new car to have and I do have time to shop around, however, if I can find a car today that has just ONE of those important features, I'll buy it and look no further." Not the brightest consumer, right? LOL


45 posted on 02/14/2007 12:13:44 PM PST by Chena
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To: pgkdan

Didn't mean to make you blood pressure rise!!! Yes, I am talking about Atlanta. Like I said, outside of the the City of Atlanta, I cannot think of any place in this state that his views would have a chance.


46 posted on 02/14/2007 12:34:01 PM PST by panthermom (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: Graybeard58

"Exactly what was it that Rudy did on 9/11 and the aftermath that any decent, caring human being would not have done.

He happened to be the Mayor when it happened".


Well for one, he rushed to the scene of the massacre within minutes and took command of the situation.

He didn't:

Continue to read "My Pet Goat"

or

Fly around the country looking for safe harbor.

Not that those are "bad" choices, mind you.


47 posted on 02/14/2007 1:00:41 PM PST by LongsforReagan (Go Rudy)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

RUDY PING


48 posted on 02/14/2007 1:05:56 PM PST by LongsforReagan (Go Rudy)
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To: CrawDaddyCA
Social liberal?... What kind of socialist is that?..
Must be the usual kind.. disguised..

Amazing how many are confused by the disquise..
Same with the fiscal liberals BUT are social conservatives..
They are all socialists..

49 posted on 02/14/2007 1:24:37 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: CrawDaddyCA
I lived through pre-911 NY and am familiar with Rudy.


I would vote for him twice if I could.


The Dims are terrified of Rudy. They're desperate and don't know how to deal with a candidate like Rudy, so they try and smear him and trick voters into hating him.


If Rudy is the best candidate who can keep Queen Hillary from claiming her throne, so be it.




Stop the insanity now!


50 posted on 02/14/2007 2:44:34 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
At this point he is not my first choice but if it comes down to it, he is better than Hillary if we have to have one or the other.

That has been said about a million times. Point has been made.

51 posted on 02/14/2007 2:46:43 PM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: Vaquero

STOP SPAM NOW!


52 posted on 02/14/2007 2:48:05 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: CrawDaddyCA
Despite his unorthodox Republicanism — his support for legal abortion, his embrace of gun-control, and his unwillingness to act against court-imposed same-sex marriages

Ah, is that what they're calling liberalism today? "Unorthodox Republicanism"?

No thanks. I'm supporting this guy:



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53 posted on 02/14/2007 2:49:17 PM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands
When you can't justify supporting your own candidate attack the front runner ping.

The only reason he's the front running, is because the liberal media put him there.

Feel free to continue to have the liberal media lead you around by the nose. It will ensure a liberal gets into office.

54 posted on 02/14/2007 2:56:08 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Shhh, I’m hunting RINOs.)
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To: everyone

A very unimpressive column. Mr. Freddoso does not seem to understand that in a leader, so-called "rudeness" can be a very good thing. It's certainly something the GOP needs more of.


55 posted on 02/14/2007 3:49:57 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Pharmboy

You left out Giuliani's ugly gun registration that wouldn't lead to gun confiscation which subsequently led to gun confiscation in New York City. BTW - why did you move to New Jersey? Connecticut has carry permits and lower taxes.


56 posted on 02/14/2007 5:44:27 PM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: sig226

My industry is here. Two-river commutes are challenging.


57 posted on 02/14/2007 5:48:08 PM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Cincinna

"STOP SPAM NOW! "

IF I were lauding the achievement of Rudy it wouldn't be SPAM to you now would it??


58 posted on 02/15/2007 4:15:18 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Antoninus

If you actually click through and read the piece (as no one ever does), I think you'll find it interesting.


59 posted on 02/15/2007 8:25:12 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: The Old Hoosier
"...there is so much evidence in the public record that he is a total jerk.

Sounds Presidential to me. :-)
60 posted on 02/15/2007 8:38:08 AM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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