Posted on 02/13/2007 8:10:35 AM PST by SmithL
Court rulings (to date) prevent Yolo County Clerk Freddie Oakley from issuing marriage certificates to gay couples. But if any such couples happen to come by on Valentine's Day, Oakley will have something else ready for them.
She plans to prepare so-called "Certificates of Inequality." They read in part: "I issue this Certificate of Inequality to you because your choice of marriage partner displeases some people whose displeasure is, apparently, more important than principles of equality."
Oakley's certificates are sure to please and displease the two warring factions of the gay marriage movement. And they raise some questions about the role of the county clerk and political speech.
The answers are pretty simple. Oakley is an elected official. So are county clerks in 47 other California counties. They aren't doting staffers for county supervisors. They are independent office holders, and within legal limits can perform their duties as they see fit.
"I just speak up for what I believe in every single time," Oakley said. She has been clerk for five years, and prior to that, a deputy clerk, utilities lobbyist, county supervisor and psychologist.
As for the gay marriage issue, she said, "I cannot be silent on this anymore."
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
Yolo County Clerk-Recorder Freddie Oakley plans to present "certificates of inequality" to same-sex pairs on Valentine's Day. She says she designed the certificates to ease her soul over having to deny marriage licenses to gays
Clerk protests gay marriage ban - Activists hail symbolic move in Yolo; critics decry 'stunt'
The hair cut alone tells me she prefers carpet over wood...
Seriously, if you're going to be a county clerk you have to leave your political agenda at home. She either quits making political statements on the public dime, or she quits, period.
>>>>Court rulings (to date) prevent Yolo County Clerk Freddie Oakley from issuing marriage certificates to gay couples.
I keep posting this on these threads and I'm not 100% sure anyone gets what I'm saying. So I'll try again.
The only way to make homosexual and heterosexual marriages equal is under a Civil Marriage.
I was married in a Church. This means, I have a marriage certificate issued from a RELIGIOUS Institution.
Traditionally, churches have performed marriages by the power vested in them from the State.
Since New Jersey Supreme Court's ruling on gay marriage, our STATE has nullified the power that was vested in religious institutions.
Why do I think this? Because the State of NJ no longer recognizes certificates of marriage from religious institutions.
LOOK:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/DocumentSelector/doc_secondary.htm
The Department of Motor Vehicles no longer accepts marriage certificates from religious institutions to show a woman's name change from maiden to married.
This means, NJ has nullified marriages performed in churches and temples.
This also means, if a woman hasn't renewed her license since this change, she will be unable to produce state recognized documentation to show her name change from maiden to married to get the license renewed.
Also, if the state of NJ has nullified marriages in religious institutions, will they back bill us all for filing jointly all these years?
How are these questions suppose to be answered?
Guess what, these tricks are suppose to be made transferrable to all the other states. So watch for it coming your way soon.
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Nice to know this nut is only a few miles from here...
I wonder if a threesome can get one of those?
You've got to be kidding me. It would invalidate my marriage as well.
Do they only recognize marriages from the Justice of Peace?
Yes. I've been working on this problem since October 2006.
The NJ office of Vital Statistics told me couples must apply for a CIVIL marriage license and remarry by a judge.
This costs $65 dollars and isn't post dated to the original date of marriage.
When I recently changed my name due to marriage, the clergy-issued on the spot certificate wasn't enough, I had to show the certified marriage license that had been filed with the county where we got married. It was not a valid license until the clergyman signed it. Only the validated by the state copy was ok for identification purposes. I thought that was normal - otherwise you could forge a marriage document and sign it yourself and change your name.
It is fundamentally not equal according to nature.
That makes absolutely no sense to me, none whatsoever.
To get married in Delaware one has to go to the County Justice of th Peace office to get a "license" which is then given to the person presiding over the marriage, be it priest, minister, rabbi, justice of the peace, or anyone else deemed qualified by the state to perform such ritual/ceremony.
The person performing said ritual/ceremony then returns the form to the County which issues the official certificate. In my case the officiating official was a friend of ours who is a Magistrate Court Judge.
A certified marriage license is a marriage certificate.
When someone wants to marry, they apply for a license. That is good for 6 months. It automatically voids if not certified. The certified document becomes the marriage certificate.
Clergy has (or had) the power to certify them. This is the problem. If the state is no longer honoring this certification process, that nullifies marriages that were made in this fashion.
This is the only way to make Gay Marriages equal to Hetero Marriages.
So you didn't have a certificate issued by a religious institution? You have a civil certificate even though a clergy performed the ceremony?
I completely agree, if those things are printed on official Government forms then she is waisting taxpayer money, and if she is filling them out at her desk then she is not doing her job. If someone did that around here the local paper would have her job.
But that certificate is no good unless it is filled with the state. The clergyman often gives the couple a nice little certificate too, but that's not the legal part. I don't think this is anything new.
The religous certificates were filed with the State of NJ. They were recognized legal documents up until this New Jersey Supreme Court's ruling.
Your logic fails me.
That a religious certificate of marriage is not accepted by the state for a drivers license does not mean that religious marriages have been nullified. It means that they cannot be used as a form of ID for a drivers license, period. How do you get to the idea that it means that religious marriages have been nullified?
The validity dates vary from county to county -- when we got married in Tarrant County, TX, it was valid for 30 days.
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