Posted on 02/12/2007 9:43:49 PM PST by RWR8189
The book on Rudy Giuliani is that he is too liberal on social issues to win the Republican presidential nomination. Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, put it succinctly: "I don't see anyone getting the Republican nomination who is not pro-life and a staunch defender of traditional marriage."
But Mr. Giuliani is running strong in Iowa and New Hampshire polls and leading most national surveys of Republicans. He's charming crowds of conservatives everywhere he goes. So it's worth wondering if Mr. Perkins is missing an undercurrent coursing through conservative politics.
Republicans have just experienced a bruising midterm election defeat. The president is suffering dismal approval ratings, and its erstwhile front-runner for the presidential nomination, Sen. John McCain, made his national reputation as a "maverick." The Giuliani rise evident now may be more than name recognition and residual support from his stalwart leadership following the Sept. 11 attacks. Mr. Giuliani's support may also arise from his having successfully moved an entrenched political culture in New York City, something national Republicans have not been able to do in Washington.
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I DO post facts; there's no ifs, ands, or buts about that; unlike many others who post their own delusions as though they were fact.
Do you have a point? If so, come out with it; don't be coy.
If I wouldn't support Rudy, why would I support his twin Hillary? They are alike on most issues.
I can't understand why anyone would vote for a post menopausal woman, or a drag queen... Has Rudy had a hysterectomy yet?
Maybe he's a post menopausal drag queen.
I propose the following:
I DO post facts; there's no ifs, ands, or buts about that; unlike many others who post their own delusions as though they were fact.
Do you have a point? If so, come out with it; don't be coy.
Well then Rudy v. Hillary would essentially boil down to NY voters. Scary.
NYCity had lots of problems that were unique to the Big Apple only. But they weren't major social issues that effect the whole nation. 70% of NYCity voters are registered Democrats. They don't give a rats arse about social issues. They don't care about stopping abortion, allowing more gun rights, less gay rights or stopping illegals from entering the US. Who do you think elected Rudy twice? Republicans? Conservatives? NO! Liberal Democrats ellected Rudy twice, and if he hadn't performed satisfactory during his first term, he wouldn't have been reelected.
Rudy did a good job as Mayor by NYCity standards. Not by conservative standards and for good reason. Rudy is no conservative.
>>>>>You conveniently ignore the other social issues that Rudy championed, such as ..... making Times Square suitable for tourists ...
You're not paying attention. I gave him credit for cleaning up Times Square. What do you want. I'm not gonna be holding up Rudy as the savior of the GOP. That's your job.
"That's been the mantra on every Rudy thread"
That's because it's true.
Oh, and I guess your "in the know"?
Don't just say who it that you are favoring; give it some thought and analyze the situation, before giving me a name.
I guess your name is true then .. because your language is truly that of a "baby".
And .. for whatever it's worth .. you sound like a classic liberal. Sorry .. "baby" .. your words give you away!
That's a good point, though an even more important point is that there are several tens of millions of pro-family, pro-life, pro-gun conservatives who will NEVER cast a ballot for him. Ever.
Take this to the bank: The nomination of Rudolph Giuliani spells the end of the Republican coalition. Kaput.
I haven't yet begun to fight; let alone "run out of arguments". OTOH, it appears that you ran out of any debate points long ago! Getting help from road kill, are you?
The too far right and the too far left merge, after a while.
Yeah, we know. Liberals never shut up, no matter how much of a spectacle they make of themselves.
This country just does NOT NEED TWO POLITICAL PARTIES TO THE LEFT OF CENTER!!
"Then you must be one of those so far off to the right that you're about to fall over the cliff."
If being pro-life, pro-gun, anti-gay and anti-open border makes me the far right, so be it.
True - they don't even know who they are or where they stand. They are for " someone ' who doesn't exist.
So, EV, how long before you make the THIRD pronouncement that you are leaving the GOP?
You did what?
Changing the focus off of what you posted says alot.
Speak English.
Repeat - Law abiding citizens are NOT criminals.
I'll try to speak s-l-o-w-e-r this time...Gungrabbers like Giuliani don't get the criminal lawbreaker's guns...they're criminal lawbreakers. They only steal the God-given unalienable rights of God-fearing law-abiding citizens.
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