Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Rummenigge
"Yeah it's not all about waving star spangled banners here. " You wrote

The average German has no concept of his own Constitution nor even knows his national anthem. You're right, your people don't wave the flag, maybe you should try it a bit more. Your Verfassung is worthless if you don't know what it says. Your Verfassung is meaningless if people don't "respect" it. I would bet money that I as an American know more about your Constitution than most of your fellow Germans.

Seeing how about half of those killed by the RAF were Americans, there are some who do take an interest. My father was in the HQ building on Rhein Main when a RAF bomb went off in the parking lot. They got on the base using an ID stolen from a GI they had previously murdered in Frankfurt. My father was OK. Not that you care, since people like you are more worried about the rights of terrorists. But there are people who care about these minor things.
25 posted on 02/14/2007 8:14:33 AM PST by Red6 (Come and get it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies ]


To: Red6
The average German has no concept of his own Constitution nor even knows his national anthem. You're right, your people don't wave the flag, maybe you should try it a bit more.

Do not overdraw. You know that this is definitly wrong. Most Germans know their national anthem and most Germans got comprehensive information about our constitution, the Grundgesetz in school.

It is indeed true that Germans do not tend to nationalism since the MSM tells the German people that we made bad experiences with it in our history. This is wrong because it was not the (positive) nationalism that was evil in Germany from 33 - 45, it was the nazi ideology. Therefore I for my part understand myself as a German patriot with a positive nationalistic background that is no weird or agressive religion to me. Germany has to work on numerous issues. I.e. the Grundgesetz is not perfect and there are many things that could be changed to make it better. Nevertheless I love my county by heart, I would never ever betray it and I follow the rules.

Besides - I recieved a really excellent entering guide into the Grundgesetz in high-school during the mid-80ties.

26 posted on 02/15/2007 3:52:18 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]

To: Red6
Seeing how about half of those killed by the RAF were Americans, there are some who do take an interest. My father was in the HQ building on Rhein Main when a RAF bomb went off in the parking lot. They got on the base using an ID stolen from a GI they had previously murdered in Frankfurt. My father was OK. Not that you care, since people like you are more worried about the rights of terrorists. But there are people who care about these minor things.

I understand your anger very well and I am for sure not the only German who is against any mercy concerning Mohnhaupt or Klar. Nevertheless you have to understand that it is not you that has a right to judge over those people since those attacks happend in Germany on German soil. That is simply our party. We Germans had good reasons to abolish capital punishment after WWII. There is for sure no country were more "judicial errors" happend in last century than in Germany. It is still better to feed all those moronics than to execute one innocent person. Personally I am really not sure if i.e. the American justice did not made some horrible mistakes in the past with some criminal cases. As far as I know our penology does not see retaliation as important as it is in the US. In fact it is not important at all in our system. The aim of our criminal law is to provide safety for the public and to correct criminal offenders. Other countries other attitudes.

Personally I would take out capital punishment in rare cases on certain persons if they are dangerous and guilty in the same time. I.e. I think the hanging of Saddam Hussein was just. Maybe it is a myth (I do not think so) that Baader, Meinhof and Ensslin were executed by our gouvernment. Nevertheless I think that this (if it was the case) was just too, since their existance posed a thread to innocent people. The existance of contemporary Mohnhaupt and Klar does not pose a thread anymore. Therefore I do not see a reason to execute them. Nevertheless they would die in jail if it would be my decision. There is no excuse for what they have done.

27 posted on 02/15/2007 4:18:42 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]

To: Red6

"The average German has no concept of his own Constitution nor even knows his national anthem."

The avarge German is of no interest for you. You've never listenend to one.


28 posted on 02/16/2007 4:29:41 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson