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No human law can 'overturn that of Creator': pope
Breitbart.com ^ | 2-11-07

Posted on 02/12/2007 9:59:15 AM PST by mr_hammer

Pope Benedict XVI reportedly lashed out against laws that he said threaten the family and social order, saying none "can overturn that of the Creator." "No law made by man can overturn that of the Creator without dramatically affecting society in its very foundation," said the pope, according to the I-Media news agency, which reports on Vatican affairs in French.

The pope's remarks to a delegation attending a...

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1 posted on 02/12/2007 9:59:18 AM PST by mr_hammer
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To: mr_hammer

Hey Rudy, you listening?


2 posted on 02/12/2007 10:00:01 AM PST by mr_hammer (Pro-life, Pro-gun, Pro-military, Pro-borders, Limited Govn't will win in 08!)
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To: mr_hammer
No kidding...


3 posted on 02/12/2007 10:01:04 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: mr_hammer

Sounds like our Declaration of Independence('endowed by their creator').


4 posted on 02/12/2007 10:02:38 AM PST by Spok
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"Weakening the family is punishing society," he told the delegation. Natural law "has rules that supersede all human laws (and) does not allow for derogations by anyone."

Natural law has "concrete applications" such as protecting human life from conception to its natural end, and the institution of marriage between a man and a woman, Benedict said.

"Awareness of natural law is inscribed in our very being," he said. "The law inscribed in our nature is the true guarantee offered to everyone to be able to live freely and in dignity."

Gotta love it!


5 posted on 02/12/2007 10:08:17 AM PST by khnyny
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oh oh.. Pope gone militant catholic now.. will MSM try and understand, bend over, and fight along side militant catholics?


6 posted on 02/12/2007 10:08:20 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: mr_hammer
"No law made by man can overturn that of the Creator
without dramatically affecting society in its very foundation," said the pope,

YHvH demands the death penalty for murder.

YHvH demands keeping holy the Shabbat.

b'shem Yah'shua
7 posted on 02/12/2007 10:14:20 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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To: mr_hammer

Exodus 20:13

Thou shalt not kill.


8 posted on 02/12/2007 10:15:33 AM PST by Enosh
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To: mr_hammer
Teddy and various other Kennedys, Bella, John F'ing: Are y'all listening? This is your "main man" talking to you.
9 posted on 02/12/2007 10:15:59 AM PST by upchuck (Wanted: Conservatives to go read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1771175/posts)
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To: Enosh
Correct interpretation of that is "thou shalt not murder", in the original language. There is a big difference between the two.
10 posted on 02/12/2007 10:19:50 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: mr_hammer
"No law made by man can overturn that of the Creator without dramatically affecting society in its very foundation"

Often for the better.

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."

11 posted on 02/12/2007 10:23:04 AM PST by ndt
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To: Enosh
Thou shalt not kill.

In the original language it came out as Thou shalt not commit murder. Even Jesus recognized the necessity for arms and even for conducting warfare. When he addressed Roman centurions, he never chastised them for being warriors, he only admonished them not to take advantage of their authority over the people. There is even the quote from the new testament about keeping burglars from the home by being strongly armed. AND the directive to Paul on the road to Damascus to sell his cloak and buy a sword for protection on the journey.

12 posted on 02/12/2007 10:24:38 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: fish hawk
"thou shalt not murder"

Correct. This differentiates between warfare and murder.

(I was just using the KJ version.)

13 posted on 02/12/2007 10:24:44 AM PST by Enosh
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To: ExSoldier

You are exactly right. I decided to use the King James version because it is seems to be the most recognizable.


14 posted on 02/12/2007 10:26:45 AM PST by Enosh
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To: Enosh

no- that was 'thou shalt not murder' in the original text- big difference between killing and murder.


15 posted on 02/12/2007 10:42:18 AM PST by CottShop
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To: Enosh

To be more exact, it forbids the taking of innocent life.


16 posted on 02/12/2007 10:43:30 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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you do realize ndt that those 'commandments' were commandments to ober the SECULAR laws that were already in place, right? Yeah, man's laws' often bring about a 'better society' like increased diseases due to the 'freedoms' of sexual experimentation, increased drug use- more laws that protect the criminals and criminalize the victims, frivelous lawsuits that ruin businesses, forcing churches to disobey God, on and on it goes- good point.


17 posted on 02/12/2007 10:46:00 AM PST by CottShop
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"you do realize ndt that those 'commandments' were commandments to ober the SECULAR laws"

Not according to Jesus in Mark 7 where he clearly identifies it as commandment of God. But I'm sure you know better then he.

And he said to them[the Pharisees]: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[c] your own traditions! 10For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,'[d] and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'"


18 posted on 02/12/2007 10:49:20 AM PST by ndt
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To: massgopguy
To be more exact, it forbids the taking of innocent life.

To be even more exact, it forbids the taking of innocent human life. ;)

19 posted on 02/12/2007 10:53:49 AM PST by Enosh
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"YHvH demands the death penalty for murder.

YHvH demands keeping holy the Shabbat."

OK, you got me with your code words:
Care to give us the English equivalents?

20 posted on 02/12/2007 11:05:27 AM PST by Redbob
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