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Republican Calls For Email And IM Monitoring
VUNet ^ | 2/9/07 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 02/12/2007 9:12:04 AM PST by steve-b

bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records....

(Excerpt) Read more at vnunet.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; Technical
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; duncanhunter; gopsucks; govwatch; nannystate; policestate; privacy; stupidparty
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To: flashbunny
Not true. Shut down starbucks, american idol, or grey's anatomy, and the people will revolt.

Here's an idea: recast this bill for the MSM. "No more Internet at Starbucks! If this bill is passed, Starbucks could no longer offer Internet because they would have to pay $150,000 every time someone abused their service."

122 posted on 02/12/2007 2:32:02 PM PST by Avery Morrow
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To: steve-b
Don't tell me... is this being lobbied by Hitachi, Western Digital, and Seagate?

-PJ

123 posted on 02/12/2007 2:36:53 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: rhombus

"A little too much fascism for me"

There's the problem. A little fascism is like being a little bit pregnant.


124 posted on 02/12/2007 2:44:27 PM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel
There's the problem. A little fascism is like being a little bit pregnant.

Nah. I've been a parent. Fascism works. That's why the old adage is that you never negotiate with a terrorist or a teenager.

125 posted on 02/12/2007 2:53:24 PM PST by rhombus
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To: facedown

LOL, I call them enough they should already know...


126 posted on 02/12/2007 4:04:55 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Yehuda

LOL.. well sometimes they wear pirate costumes...


127 posted on 02/12/2007 4:05:50 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: rhombus
How is this any different than requiring all telephone companies to record all conversations?

It's not. And they don't.

The Digital Telephony Act of 1994's requires the phone companies to provide law enforcement officials with assurance that they will be able to "tap" or have access to the content of any communications incorporating new digital technology in the same way that traditional voice transmissions are currently accessible.

The phone companies do not record all telephone conversations.

128 posted on 02/12/2007 4:13:22 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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To: taxcontrol
"Further obscurity can be had via layered SOCKS accounts and/or further encryption tunnels."

If they implement such BS regulations on ISPs I will use those services even when I 'have nothing to hide' just to make the intel analysts waste their time breaking the encryption to see my worthless internet traffic. I'm sure encrypted tunnels and proxy's will be regulated as well. I'd expect they will require some sort of license or permit to use them and make them so cost prohibitive only a business or a wealthy individual would own one.

129 posted on 02/12/2007 4:16:18 PM PST by KoRn
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To: steve-b

I have a better suggestion: Require the government to track and publish the web surfing of all members of congress. Publish these on line.


130 posted on 02/12/2007 5:36:18 PM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford - 2008)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Imagine the expense of maintaining all those records just so the Gov't could sift through them scanning for crimes. (shudder)


131 posted on 02/12/2007 5:36:58 PM PST by rhombus
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To: steve-b

Let's face it. We have two big government parties. There's no place for leave-me-alone types anymore.


132 posted on 02/12/2007 5:39:38 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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To: rhombus
(shudder)

Yeppers. That there's one huge pantload of storage.

133 posted on 02/12/2007 5:40:23 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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To: Huck
Usually, the a-holes who come up with this sort of crap NEED to smoke a little weed.

LOL. Another therapeutic benefit of cannabis. But, you're right.

134 posted on 02/12/2007 6:40:22 PM PST by jammer
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To: VeniVidiVici; RobRoy

You didn't ask me, but I'm against the horrendous RICO portion, just for starters. RICO and "money laundering"--first refuges of statist scoundrels.


135 posted on 02/12/2007 6:59:46 PM PST by jammer
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Yep, and look for the storage costs to be passed on to ISP customers,

And a huge portion of those storage costs are going to go to Oracle.

136 posted on 02/12/2007 7:03:25 PM PST by jammer
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To: steve-b
From Lamar Smith's webpage (with boldface added):
"Technology is the key that will unlock a brighter future for us all. We must ensure that technology continues to expand and enrich our lives without harming our privacy or security."
More on Technology.
137 posted on 02/12/2007 7:20:45 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: rhombus
Imagine the expense of maintaining all those records just so the Gov't could sift through them scanning for crimes.

They don't need to sift through all of them -- just the ones pertaining to those who annoy the people in power....

138 posted on 02/12/2007 8:03:27 PM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: steve-b

The "safety" act??? Surely they can come up with something more imaginitive than that -- it's as if they're not even trying anymore!

I wonder how long it will be until we have a "Safety Czar?" A free country can't have too many Czars...


139 posted on 02/12/2007 9:47:20 PM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: T.Smith

I light of this new law I'd like to clarify that I in no way endorse armed revolt.

Now as to why there won't be one, we are outgunned. Even the local Barney Fife has access to full auto 7 body armor, the most we can get is a semi auto rifle, handgun or shotgun. The 2A has been effectively neutralized and there is no longer a reset button. You are living in a socialist country which is moving toward fascism.


140 posted on 02/13/2007 1:54:30 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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