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Some in party believe he (Giuliani) can win in California
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Feb. 11, 2007 | John Marelius

Posted on 02/11/2007 10:27:49 PM PST by FairOpinion

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, still basking in his can-do post-Sept. 11 image, got a rousing welcome yesterday from Republican activists searching for a presidential candidate who can win in California.

No Republican presidential candidate has carried California since the elder George Bush did in 1988, and no one has even run a competitive race in the increasingly Democratic-leaning state since then.

Republicans are hopeful they have prospects in the large 2008 field who can reverse the trend by combining liberal and conservative stands that has proven so successful for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

“The popularity of the governor shows that you can take the positions that he holds and win in California,” said Duf Sundheim, outgoing Republican state chairman. “I think Giuliani has the same opportunity.”

As for Giuliani, backers say his record on reducing crime and taxes in New York should give conservatives plenty to like. He was introduced to the convention yesterday by businessman Bill Simon, the 2002 Republican nominee for California governor who once worked under Giuliani in the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York.

Simon said that as mayor, Giuliani cut taxes 23 times and reduced the city's murder rate by 67 percent. “That is a record that as a conservative Republican, I can heartily endorse,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; bluestateliberal; corrupt; dreamon; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; giuliani2008; gop; johnwayneheaint; mobties; partysplitter; phony; republicans; rudyspam
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To: Cobra64

WHAT? IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE SERIOUS?


201 posted on 02/12/2007 12:55:28 AM PST by nopardons
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To: calcowgirl

The PDF file is from the government.


202 posted on 02/12/2007 12:57:26 AM PST by nopardons
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Why would the government NEED a list of all the guns an individual might own?.....if not so they can come to collect them some day?

This is a very big issue with me, but one I think we could influence Rudy on. Particularly since the advent of "Katrina" and the violence that ensued. As Republicans, we would have more influence over him than we ever would over Hillary. Rudy has already backed down to the extent that he says "it is a state issue", but even that is not far enough for me.

I have been sending his campaign emails and letters. I would urge other concerned Republicans to do the same.


203 posted on 02/12/2007 1:01:26 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: spunkets

They do and you can spin like a top, but it will do absolutely nothing for you.


204 posted on 02/12/2007 1:06:00 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Cobra64

"Do you make weather predictions based upon the outcome of Ground Hog Day, The Farmer's Almanac, and sunspots?"

You're one to talk. Your entire basis for saying Giuliani can win New York is based on some conversations with a few friends in New York. How many millions live in the state of New York? How many do you know? What is the difference in that number? Polls are something at the very least.

Hillary Clinton may be a carpetbagger, but she still has won STATEWIDE in New York twice now. New York is a lost cause.


205 posted on 02/12/2007 1:06:17 AM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: nopardons
You only prove what people have suspected. That you're a leftist republican with dreams of the Rockefeller days by supporting Giuliani. You have to be a leftist to some degree to support Giuliani despite his record and countless quotes proving he is no conservative.


WORST VIABLE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE EVER

206 posted on 02/12/2007 1:10:32 AM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: nopardons
"They do and you can spin like a top, but it will do absolutely nothing for you."

I don't spin. I told you they need a license. I told you NYC doesn't issue them unless you're the mayor's good buddy. Do you understand that? I told you FReepers that lived in NY were denied renewal of their licenses. For no reason, under Rudy G. They had there guns confiscated and melted down. Do you understand that? If they refuse to issue the license, your SOL.

a) Premises License -- Residence or Business.

This is a restricted handgun license, issued for a specific business or residence location. The handgun shall be safeguarded at the specific address indicated on the license. This license permits the transporting of an unloaded handgun directly to and from an authorized small arms range/shooting club, secured unloaded in a locked container. Ammunition shall be carried separately.

207 posted on 02/12/2007 1:15:47 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: nopardons
The PDF file is from the government.

Come on, NP. If you have info on him, back it up! If not, quit smearing the guy.
If you want to disagree with his positions, that's fine with me.

208 posted on 02/12/2007 1:25:33 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: nopardons
Here ya go. Rudy refuses to renew permits." You know some high end folks in NY that are special, that got to keep there's? It was probably consideration for party favors, like in Chicago. Ordinary NYers are SOL.
209 posted on 02/12/2007 1:25:56 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: FairOpinion

For me, the War on Terror is a big issue. In my state, most Dims, even, realize that is tantamount. Even they have no confidence in anything the Dims are offering.


210 posted on 02/12/2007 1:27:08 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: endthematrix
He isn't going to make friends with the people who shop at Wal-Mart either, once they find out what his actual policies are; except when it comes to his pals, that is.

Since you fail to understand what I'm taking about, let me explain it, at an even simpler level.

No matter what he says, or is what said for him, Hunter needs at least 100 million dollars to ever begin to start out. He won't get anywhere near that.

Wall Street ( in the generic sense ) won't donate. Business won't either.

The people who go to Davos aren't the ones you should even be discussing. There are lots of monied Americans who don't go there/be,long to that circle, but they DO support political candidates. They also work for them and get their friends to donate and support candidates.

Without money, without backing, without a great team and staff in all the states, but especially in all of the front loaded primary states, NOW, without name recognition, reputation, standing, charisma, and a dour appearance as well as delivery, he is going nowhere.

211 posted on 02/12/2007 1:36:34 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Cobra64

ROTFLOL


212 posted on 02/12/2007 1:37:55 AM PST by nopardons
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To: singfreedom
Are dogs going to be confiscated, since you have to get a license for them too? How about cars? Your spouse?
213 posted on 02/12/2007 1:39:35 AM PST by nopardons
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To: NYRepublican72
I agree with your analysis. I love Newt but I don't think he could win in a "head to head" with Hillary. We lost a lot of ground in the last election. We are going to have to back up and select someone with broader appeal than, unfortunately, Newt can garner.

You are also correct on the "social conservative" issues. Immigration, gun rights, abortion, etc. are controlled by the legislature, NOT the President (as I keep having to explain). We need coat-tails--broad coat-tails! Sorry, folks, but for the time being, at least, we are going to have to suck it up and sacrifice some of our conservative personal beliefs, thanks to those who either didn't vote, or voted Dim, in the last election.
214 posted on 02/12/2007 1:43:35 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: calcowgirl; nopardons
I'll back up what nopardons said. Everything she's said is true.

With your searching ability, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding it. It just takes time and perseverance.
215 posted on 02/12/2007 1:52:32 AM PST by AmeriBrit (Google 'Duncan Hunter+corruption'....warning to Hunter supporters - grab your Kleenex first.)
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To: NapkinUser
Yeah, right, I'm a "leftist" says some n00b, who doesn't know anything at all about me, who claims that nebulous others suspect that I am one, so it must be so. Thats really rich and then some.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to win. I want to keep the damned Dems out of the White House and win back seats in both Houses.I want to NOT leave our troops stranded, nor do I want to pull them out; leaving the Middle East to implode in Islamonazi chaos.

I also don't want to pin my hopes on some nobody Congresscritter that you people are falling all over, without knowing anything about him, but what's on his website, or those dreaming of some phantom Conservative great white hope to make a deus ex machina entrance amid misty smoke and cymbal clanking.

Would you like it, if I decided to post all kinds of things about you,that I can dream up and claim that they are true? WOULD YOU? I bet that I can even get other people to tell me what they think of you and post that in the bargain. But that would be silly. Take heed of this remonstrance.

216 posted on 02/12/2007 1:53:14 AM PST by nopardons
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To: spunkets
Oh, I see, then they CAN get a gun. Proving yourself wrong is so nice of you to do.

One FREEPER, ONE said that he lost his guns. Do you know how many N.Y.C. FREEPERS there are here? Many and not another has ever said that their guns were taken away.

217 posted on 02/12/2007 1:56:19 AM PST by nopardons
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To: AmeriBrit
Thank you!

And even IF that stuff or a link to it was posted, some wouldn't believe it.

218 posted on 02/12/2007 1:57:56 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Did you see the post where I was accused of pulling a 'Dan Rather' and she wanted a copy to have it analyzed? LOL
219 posted on 02/12/2007 2:01:18 AM PST by AmeriBrit (Google 'Duncan Hunter+corruption'....warning to Hunter supporters - grab your Kleenex first.)
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To: calcowgirl
I have almost NO knowledge of HTML; you're lucky that I finally learned what little I do know.

When I first stated posting to FR, my posts were an embarrassment, to say the least, because I didn't know how to make a paragraph and nobody to tell me how to do so on a WebTV. I therefore tried to keep my posts small.

I'm not "smearing" anyone; unlike others here and I'm saying that YOU are "smearing".........just that others are and I'm not.

220 posted on 02/12/2007 2:02:22 AM PST by nopardons
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