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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
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Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: right way right

The DOJ wrote it, but since you are unable to write correct English, spell, or even us the spell check here, you may have a problem reading that 22 page DOJ file, which is not a phony and has been posted on line, for quite a while.


481 posted on 02/12/2007 2:14:32 AM PST by nopardons
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To: BunnySlippers

Take a look at how he balanced the budget some day. Mostly, it was city taxes on the financial sector. Giuliani spent money like it was going out of style, it was not anything conservative at all. Yes, he hates the UN. So does everyone else in New York City. Start looking at Giuliani's actual record. He is not a conservative. You were in California. I was in New Jersey, working in New York. I watched it happen for eight years, much of which did not involve the World Trade Center attack. Giuliani had a show on WABC radio every Friday morning, he would discuss the New York nanny state and help the sucker - taxpayers navigate the bureaucracy that he did not remove. (Bloomberg does the show now, they stream it at WABCRadio.com.) If you want a nanny state that rivals anything Hillary Clinton could imagine, elect Rudy Giuliani as president.


482 posted on 02/12/2007 3:42:20 AM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: nopardons

Of course. I actually worked in New York City while Giuliani was mayor and you did not, so you clearly know everything about the man and I was several thousand miles away, listening to the tv news about September 11th. BTW - Clinton signed the welfare reductions. Get your facts straight and watch your mouth.


483 posted on 02/12/2007 3:46:41 AM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: areafiftyone

No! Blackbird.


484 posted on 02/12/2007 6:03:38 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: melancholy
How does a prosecutor end up being a top military and world affairs expert?

So Rudy had a big budget and a large population in his city. Instead of sticking your head in the sand why don't you just answer the question. Your the one wiggling and yes I hope everyone does read this.

485 posted on 02/12/2007 6:11:32 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: beltfed308
How does a prosecutor end up being a top military and world affairs expert?

So Rudy had a big budget and a large population in his city. Instead of sticking your head in the sand why don't you just answer the question. Your the one wiggling and yes I hope everyone does read this.

You need to be honest about getting your answer(s) or, is it your reading comprehension that needs work? Here is a sample from up thread :

#51

The same as an actor did in 1980 and what a great president he turned to be!

#64

NYC government, budget, police force, population, etc. is bigger than some states, right?

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486 posted on 02/12/2007 6:47:58 AM PST by melancholy (The GOP nominee, whoever he is, will get my vote, period.)
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To: Dolphy
Seriously, blood in the streets?

Actually, that kind of fiery language was more common back then. FR was not so warm toward the federal government back then. Things are more sedate now. It's been a long time since people made death threats. Or got a visit from the Secret Service because of what they posted here.

Almost any executive order Xlinton signed would bring it out.

As far as candidates in 2000, I don't recall any blood in the streets stuff. But no one sees every thread. Still, I would have seen it if it was common. I recall getting a death threat from some guy (I won't name) but management banned him immediately. I wasn't the only one he was doing it to. But I wouldn't say that it was common.

I think a few people here are grinding an ax and they are exaggerating FR as having been some kind of unsavory forum. But it's not true. Discussion was passionate and sometimes unruly but rarely seditious.
487 posted on 02/12/2007 6:54:40 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: melancholy
Yeah # 51 a strawman and # 64 doesn't answer it either.

How about a simple he hasn't claimed to be an expert and as another poster pointed out that experience is gained over time. Using your reasoning any mayor from NYC would be qualified.

Thanks for playing.

488 posted on 02/12/2007 7:15:12 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Paulus Invictus

You forgot to ask what age.
Some days its hard to spell poll


489 posted on 02/12/2007 7:19:51 AM PST by Steamburg (If we don't want our nation bad enough to protect it, it won't be ours long.)
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To: Dog Gone

The Council of Foreign Relations is a thinktank, just like a hundred others around the country. Big Freekin' Deal.

490 posted on 02/12/2007 7:55:36 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: nopardons
What would you think of a Rudy/Haley ticket?

I wouldn't rule Barbour out yet. I thought I read somewhere that influential people are still talking to him about a run.

491 posted on 02/12/2007 8:02:59 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Nuc1

We will see. I was basing my comment on all of the polls that are out there at present. I am aware that the numbers could fluctuate between now and the primaries. It will be an interesting next year.


492 posted on 02/12/2007 8:12:20 AM PST by erton1
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To: AmeriBrit
If I find it absolutely necessary I will post the link, but until that time arises I have no intention of making it easy for the RATs or giving them any more ammunition against the Republicans than I have too.

That's rich. You also claim that you don't know how to post a 22-page PDF - but all you need to provide is the link.

You've been pulling this crap for weeks now - impugning Duncan Hunter with these statements but never backing it up. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

493 posted on 02/12/2007 8:22:38 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: nopardons
Do you, or do you not, believe that laws should be obeyed?

Ask Rudy that.

He defied federal law and federal court orders and maintained NYC's sanctuary city policy in defiance of both.

494 posted on 02/12/2007 8:36:20 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: nopardons
Do you, or do you not, believe that laws should be obeyed?

Ask Rudy that.

He defied federal law and federal court orders and maintained NYC's sanctuary city policy in defiance of both.

495 posted on 02/12/2007 8:36:23 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: spunkets
Hmmm.
- Freedom is about unalienable rights.
- Freedom is about life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
- Freedom is about our Constitution, the rights it perserves and the powers and authority ceded to government by the people to help (best) perserve those rights.

"Damn, I made a list about freedom. Drat, I even said "freedom is about...authority".

LOL! I broke spunkets rules on describing "freedom". Can you forgive me? "

Your list gives no meaning to the word freedom whatsoever. It's just list.

No. Rudy used the word "about". I used the word "about". We both weren't giving a definition. We both were describing things that are associated with freedom.

Here's another addition to my list of things that are associated with freedom.

- Freedom is about objectivity, and having the courtesy not to twist somebodies words until you remove the context of what they say.

Perhaps you could be courteous enough to give us both the "gift" of not changing the context of what we say.

Also, the Constitution doesn't protect freedom. The Constitution can be used for any purpose whatsoever, including to establish socialism, which does not in any way respect freedom.

Gee, how profound. LOL! (No kidding Sherlock). I never said that the Constitution was foolproof. I did say that it's only the best attempt at protecting rights. Your supposed need for a correction is a non-sequitur.

496 posted on 02/12/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: nopardons
Baggage? Is an ongoing investigation, which is being sort of hushed up, but can be found on line, if you look for it, investigation of Hunter and two of his staff, linking him with Cunningham and Duke's corrupt practices, now just a "carryon"? And this may be just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

I just know you've got some links to prove your accusation. Care to share?

497 posted on 02/12/2007 10:19:14 AM PST by upchuck (Wanted: Conservatives to go read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1771175/posts)
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To: FreeReign
"No. Rudy used the word "about". I used the word "about". We both weren't giving a definition. We both were describing things that are associated with freedom.

Here's what Giuliani said:

"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."

Freedom isn't about that at all. His recipe is for serfs and slaves. It is not about Freedom, it's about authoritarianism. His statement, unlike any of yours was specific, and indicated precisely what he thinks freedom is. He thinks freedom is submission to a bunch of nannies.

" Here's another addition to my list of things that are associated with freedom. - Freedom is about objectivity, and having the courtesy not to twist somebodies words until you remove the context of what they say."

No it's not. I think your objectivity is arbitrary and ethereal.

" Perhaps you could be courteous enough to give us both the "gift" of not changing the context of what we say."

Rudy's statement is a complete thought, which indicates precisely what he thinks about freedom. It's a valid quote, that is indeendent of "context". Yours is arbitrary, ethereal, and was given in the context of a whine.

Re: Also, the Constitution doesn't protect freedom. The Constitution can be used for any purpose whatsoever, including to establish socialism, which does not in any way respect freedom.

" Gee, how profound. LOL! (No kidding Sherlock). I never said that the Constitution was foolproof. I did say that it's only the best attempt at protecting rights. Your supposed need for a correction is a non-sequitur."

Whatever.

498 posted on 02/12/2007 10:50:28 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: spunkets
Rudy's statement is a complete thought, which indicates precisely what he thinks about freedom. It's a valid quote, that is indeendent of "context".

A "complete thought"? A "percise indication"?

You haff determund ven Rudy haff completed hiss thought? /Mock German Accent.

LOL!

One's point of view can only be reasonably determined by looking at full context.

Here are three statements. Together, their full context describes a concept -- a point of view -- of things associated with freedom.

- Freedom is about unalienable rights.
- Freedom is about life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
- Freedom is about our Constitution, the rights it protects and the powers and authority ceded to government by the people to (best) protect those rights.

499 posted on 02/12/2007 11:39:07 AM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: erton1

"It will be an interesting next year."


Indeed it will. Gotta say I wonder about the basis for the hostility to Rudy articles. At 500 comments it does seem to get the discussion going.


500 posted on 02/12/2007 4:25:16 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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