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To: spunkets
Hmmm.
- Freedom is about unalienable rights.
- Freedom is about life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
- Freedom is about our Constitution, the rights it perserves and the powers and authority ceded to government by the people to help (best) perserve those rights.

"Damn, I made a list about freedom. Drat, I even said "freedom is about...authority".

LOL! I broke spunkets rules on describing "freedom". Can you forgive me? "

Your list gives no meaning to the word freedom whatsoever. It's just list.

No. Rudy used the word "about". I used the word "about". We both weren't giving a definition. We both were describing things that are associated with freedom.

Here's another addition to my list of things that are associated with freedom.

- Freedom is about objectivity, and having the courtesy not to twist somebodies words until you remove the context of what they say.

Perhaps you could be courteous enough to give us both the "gift" of not changing the context of what we say.

Also, the Constitution doesn't protect freedom. The Constitution can be used for any purpose whatsoever, including to establish socialism, which does not in any way respect freedom.

Gee, how profound. LOL! (No kidding Sherlock). I never said that the Constitution was foolproof. I did say that it's only the best attempt at protecting rights. Your supposed need for a correction is a non-sequitur.

496 posted on 02/12/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: FreeReign
"No. Rudy used the word "about". I used the word "about". We both weren't giving a definition. We both were describing things that are associated with freedom.

Here's what Giuliani said:

"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."

Freedom isn't about that at all. His recipe is for serfs and slaves. It is not about Freedom, it's about authoritarianism. His statement, unlike any of yours was specific, and indicated precisely what he thinks freedom is. He thinks freedom is submission to a bunch of nannies.

" Here's another addition to my list of things that are associated with freedom. - Freedom is about objectivity, and having the courtesy not to twist somebodies words until you remove the context of what they say."

No it's not. I think your objectivity is arbitrary and ethereal.

" Perhaps you could be courteous enough to give us both the "gift" of not changing the context of what we say."

Rudy's statement is a complete thought, which indicates precisely what he thinks about freedom. It's a valid quote, that is indeendent of "context". Yours is arbitrary, ethereal, and was given in the context of a whine.

Re: Also, the Constitution doesn't protect freedom. The Constitution can be used for any purpose whatsoever, including to establish socialism, which does not in any way respect freedom.

" Gee, how profound. LOL! (No kidding Sherlock). I never said that the Constitution was foolproof. I did say that it's only the best attempt at protecting rights. Your supposed need for a correction is a non-sequitur."

Whatever.

498 posted on 02/12/2007 10:50:28 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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