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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
411 ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone
Lord have mercy on me if I ever believed that any politician has what I need; the barter price of it would be my conscience and soul.

41 posted on 02/11/2007 1:08:42 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
I don't want to have to vote for Rudy.

I've had enough of people telling me "YOU voted for him"..

sw

42 posted on 02/11/2007 1:10:16 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: areafiftyone
Don't let us stand in your way. You can vote for whom you wish.

My determination to vote against Hillary Clinton is matched by my determination not to vote for Giuliani. And frankly, the tone of these pro-Rudy threads is getting rather tiresome. Hillary Clinton is a danger. Rudy is, in his own way, almost as dangerous; both pass my threshhold for what I can tolerate as a Christian and as an American.

Were the election to be held today, I could physically force my self to vote for McCain. But that is as far as I go.

43 posted on 02/11/2007 1:11:08 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: NormsRevenge

The best thing any politician can do to help education and reduce crime is to restore the family. If Rudy can't manage his own household, I sure wouldn't trust the nation to him.


44 posted on 02/11/2007 1:12:34 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: areafiftyone
Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need

LOL--not hardly...

45 posted on 02/11/2007 1:12:52 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: areafiftyone
How about anyone other than Rudy and Hitlery? Then those pesky social issues can be addressed.
46 posted on 02/11/2007 1:13:51 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: areafiftyone
The social conservatives should realize that to nominate Rudy Giuliani is sending the message that the issues of abortion, homosexual marriage, and gun control are now off the table in presidential politics. Just because abortion may never be illegal in my lifetime is no reason to stop fighting it. On the contrary, if we stop fighting it, it shows our cowardice in the face of legalized murder, and will make it all the more difficult to ever stop it.

Why are we asked to compromise? Why not vote for McCain? Oh, you mean McCain-Feingold is more important than abortion? A stupid law concocted by Democrats is more important than the dignity of human life? I cannot agree with that.

47 posted on 02/11/2007 1:14:23 PM PST by PatrickF4 (Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought. - JP II)
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To: Zack Nguyen
It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us.No, but Rudy's Assault Weapon Ban won't seem very clever at that point, will it?
48 posted on 02/11/2007 1:14:55 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: areafiftyone

Look at his record, discuss the implications.


49 posted on 02/11/2007 1:17:48 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: areafiftyone

Because Rudy should be stopped.


50 posted on 02/11/2007 1:18:07 PM PST by PatrickF4 (Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought. - JP II)
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To: beltfed308
How does a prosecutor end up being a top military and world affairs expert?

The same as an actor did in 1980 and what a great president he turned to be!

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51 posted on 02/11/2007 1:18:33 PM PST by melancholy (The GOP nominee, whoever he is, will get my vote, period.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

The Council of Foreign Relations is a thinktank, just like a hundred others around the country. Big Freekin' Deal.

Why you're more frightend of it than, say, the Brookings Institute, a truly scary thinktank, is beyond me.

Mention CFR, and spooky music automatically starts playing...


52 posted on 02/11/2007 1:21:12 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Jack Black

No indeed. But I think the argument is flawed. I could say the same thing about a variety of issues: "it doesn't matter if a porn theatre opens next door to my church if the water won't rurn on." The fact, both issues matter, and both are legitimate parts of governance. Just like abortion and the war on terror. We ought not to give up our principles in one area for the sake of another, just to win an election.

Frankly this Presidential election is shaping up to be a real snoozer for me. None of the front-runners seem interested in knocking over tables.


53 posted on 02/11/2007 1:21:28 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: kinoxi
Look at his record, discuss the implications.

I have looked at his record - I have voted for him twice.

Rudy's Record

Fighting Crime
Under Rudy Giuliani’s leadership as Mayor of the nation’s largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement.  Rudy Giuliani believes that “Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people’s freedom.”

Cutting Taxes
Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers’ tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani’s term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs.

Fiscal Responsibility
Rudy Giuliani inherited a $2.3 billion dollar budget deficit and turned it into a multi-billion dollar surplus, while cutting taxes and delivering balanced budgets. He cut the number of full-time city workers by more than 20,000 – excluding teachers, firefighters, and police officers – while slowing the growth of government spending to below the rate of inflation.

Welfare Reform
When Rudy Giuliani took office, more than one out of every seven New Yorkers was on welfare, reflecting intergenerational dependency and a weakening of the work ethic. Under his leadership, the City cut welfare rolls by more than 640,000 – to the lowest number since 1966 – eliminating fraud and abuse while turning welfare offices into Job Centers. Rudy Giuliani believes: “At the core of our approach to welfare reform is the basic concept of a social contract—that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation.”  

Improving Education
Rudy Giuliani worked to reform the nation’s largest public school system, with 1.1 million schoolchildren. Under his watch, school funding increased from $8 billion to $12 billion, more than 13,000 new teachers were hired, computers were brought into classrooms and libraries, arts education was permanently restored, and targeted programs were offered to improve literacy and student proficiency in science. At the same time, he insisted on reforms such as an end to social promotion, abolished principal tenure, and created the nation’s first and most generous Charter School Fund. Rudy Giuliani believes that every parent should have “the ability to send their child to the school of their choice, be it public, private, or parochial.”

Quality of Life
When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the “Broken Windows” theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years.

Protecting Children
Acting on his belief that “One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm,” Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city’s first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance.


54 posted on 02/11/2007 1:21:35 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone
As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me.

I feel a historic remembrance coming on.

McClintock -vs- Shwarzenegger...

55 posted on 02/11/2007 1:22:42 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: PatrickF4
Because Rudy should be stopped.

STOPPED FROM WHAT? What are you guys afraid of? If the Republicans don't want him and don't like him they won't vote for him. Simple as that.

56 posted on 02/11/2007 1:22:50 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

If you would like to jump on board for Rudy for President 2008, please freep mail areafiftyone or let us know on this thread! We will be glad to add you to our ping list!

PKM


57 posted on 02/11/2007 1:25:29 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: areafiftyone

I appreciate the post. The dozens of Rudy threads that I have seen didn't display this information. Please forgive my delay in responding but if this was half true I probably would have seen it weeks ago...


58 posted on 02/11/2007 1:25:46 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: melancholy
The same as an actor did in 1980 and what a great president he turned to be!

And former Governor.

59 posted on 02/11/2007 1:25:52 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: areafiftyone
You have posted an article from a site (411) that comments mainly on Pro Wrestling.

Quite fitting, as Rudy is as real a Republican as Pro Wrestling is a real sport.

60 posted on 02/11/2007 1:26:04 PM PST by metalurgist ("For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?" No to Rudy)
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