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New York City's "Sanctuary" policy and effect on public safety [RUDY'S IMMIGRATION POLICY?]
US House Committee on Immigration, Border Security ^ | Reb. 27, 2003 | Rep. HOSTETTLER

Posted on 02/11/2007 8:54:54 AM PST by freedomdefender

On December 19, 2002, a 42-year-old mother of two was abducted and forced by her assailants into a hideout near some railroad tracks in Queens, New York. She was brutally assaulted before being rescued by a New York Police Department canine unit.

The NYPD arrested five aliens in connection with that assault. According to records that the Judiciary Committee has received from the INS, four of those aliens entered the United States illegally. Three of those four had extensive arrest histories in New York City. The fifth alien, a lawful permanent resident, also had a criminal history prior to the December 19, 2002, attack.

Despite the criminal histories of the four aliens, however, it does not appear from the records that the Committee has received that the NYPD told the INS about these aliens until after the December 19 attack.

These heinous crimes prompted extensive public discussion of whether New York City police were barred from disclosing immigration information to the INS, a policy that may have prevented the removal of these aliens prior to the December 19 attack.

Some suggested that the only reason that the three illegal aliens were in the United States, despite their extensive arrest histories, was because the NYPD officers who arrested these aliens previously were barred by a so-called ''sanctuary'' policy from contacting the INS. That policy, critics claimed, prevented NYPD officers from contacting the INS when they arrested an illegal alien.

We will examine New York City's policy on the NYPD's disclosure of immigration information to the INS. New York's Executive Order, or E.O. 124, barred line officers from communicating directly with the INS about criminal aliens. That executive order was issued by Mayor Ed Koch in 1989 and reissued by Mayors Dinkins and Giuliani.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gateway; giuliani; immigration; rinorudyhistory
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That executive order was issued by Mayor Ed Koch in 1989 and reissued by Mayors Dinkins and Giuliani.
1 posted on 02/11/2007 8:54:56 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

Help me out here, Rudy supporters. Did he sign an "immigration sanctuary" order in NYC? If so, how does that square with his "law and order" image? As president, would enforce our borders, or say "come on in!"?


2 posted on 02/11/2007 8:56:20 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender
Borders? What borders?


3 posted on 02/11/2007 9:04:35 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: freedomdefender

Rudy is just another open-borders elitist.


4 posted on 02/11/2007 9:05:34 AM PST by nj26 (Secure the Borders and Protect the Unborn! Duncan Hunter '08! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: peyton randolph; Salena Zito; Vaquero; MittFan08; jla; TommyDale; BMIC; Sir Francis Dashwood; ...

Rudy made NYC a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants? Can that be right? It's not as if I was going to support him, even before this issue arose, but if it's true it really validates my instincts that tell me he's a phony and a liberal.


5 posted on 02/11/2007 9:07:25 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender
This is going to be a major part of Rudy Giuliani's undoing.

For one thing, this "sanctuary city" crap exposes Giuliani's silly "I'm against abortion but I must uphold Roe v. Wade -- the law of the land" statement last week as one of the biggest piles of utter bullsh!t to come out of the mouth of a public figure in my lifetime.

I have no respect for an @sshole in public office who "upholds the law of the land" in such a selective manner depending on what suits his political agenda.

6 posted on 02/11/2007 9:07:37 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: freedomdefender

I have brought that point up many times. Expect silence or it was someone elses fault.


7 posted on 02/11/2007 9:08:19 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Alberta's Child

I guess Rudy's a "federalist" - he things each state (or city) should decide on its own whether or not to obey federal immigration law?


8 posted on 02/11/2007 9:09:04 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender
That executive order was issued by Mayor Ed Koch in 1989

So it's Giuliani's fault that the policy was in place before he took office.

I suppose he's responsible for NYC's gun control laws too.

9 posted on 02/11/2007 9:09:40 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: freedomdefender
Rudy RINO collector cards......
10 posted on 02/11/2007 9:09:59 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: Vaquero

11 posted on 02/11/2007 9:10:49 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: freedomdefender
On December 19, 2002

Giuliani left office in 2001. How come Bloomingidiot didn't modify or end the law then.

12 posted on 02/11/2007 9:10:52 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: beltfed308
Expect silence or it was someone elses fault.

I hadn't heard about this matter, but I confess I find it shocking. Are you telling me that Rudy supporters will not address it? They'll studiously ignore any attempt to discuss it?

I don't think that "silence" will work when the primary debates begin. Somehow, I expect there will be at least one other candidate for the GOP nomination who might make an issue of Rudy and the sanctuary issue.

13 posted on 02/11/2007 9:11:11 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
How come Bloomingidiot didn't modify or end the law then.

Good question. IT shows that, like Rudy, Bloomingidiot also isn't fit to be president.

14 posted on 02/11/2007 9:12:09 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: All
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15 posted on 02/11/2007 9:13:33 AM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 & Let's not forget, we are all still friends, basically :) despite our differences)
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To: freedomdefender
Help me out here, Rudy supporters. Did he sign an "immigration sanctuary" order in NYC? If so, how does that square with his "law and order" image?

It's the feds' responsibility to seal the borders not Rudy.

16 posted on 02/11/2007 9:13:44 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: freedomdefender
Right.

I wonder what Rudy Giuliani would say if the mayor of Dearborn, Michigan decided to violate any number of provisions of the Patriot Act for the sake of political expediency.

17 posted on 02/11/2007 9:14:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So it's Giuliani's fault that the policy was in place before he took office.

You obviously didn't read the congressional transcript. The policy was instituted before Rudy's tenure - and then Rudy reinstituted it. This is shocking, and - if the congressional committee's statement is true - it clearly disqualifies Rudy for president. No wonder he hasn't made an official announcement yet. His candidacy would be destroyed by this issue in the Republican primaries.

18 posted on 02/11/2007 9:14:47 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Alberta's Child

It sure sound like I voted FOR the war but personally I'm AGAINST the war.

I am so sick and tired of this hypocritical DOUBLESTALK by spineless, parasitical politicians for self gain and more power.


19 posted on 02/11/2007 9:15:29 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: freedomdefender
but if it's true it really validates my instincts that tell me he's a phony and a liberal.

You needed this issue to tell you that?

20 posted on 02/11/2007 9:16:04 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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