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Do Vanity Candidates Really Have a Chance? (Michael Medved)
Michael Medved's Townhall Blog ^ | February 8, 2007 | Michael Medved

Posted on 02/10/2007 2:16:42 PM PST by EveningStar

Two days ago, in blogging about the abortion records of the serious GOP Presidential prospects (McCain, Giuliani, Romney), I provoked a great deal of anger by writing off the other current contenders (Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, Gilmore, Thompson, Duncan Hunter) as "lesser" candidates who stand no realistic chance of winning primaries or grabbing the nomination. No matter how much you may admire these people, their candidacies are irrelevant – more a bid for attention, or a preparation for future races, than a realistic bid for power...

When, in the last 60 years of Presidential politics, did any obscure underdog manage to defy the odds and win the nomination of the Republican Party?...

(Excerpt) Read more at michaelmedved.townhall.com ...


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To: TitansAFC
Pretty much all of the GOP media are Social Libertarians.

If so, why are they supporting a gun-grabber? Libertarians, for all their faults, are pro-2nd amendment.

61 posted on 02/10/2007 2:50:35 PM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: EveningStar

I think he's overestimating the position of Ronald Reagan. Big GOP players didn't even want him at the '76 convention. He was definitely seen as a not-ready for the big leagues.


62 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SaxxonWoods

"They better enlarge the tent,"

Why don't we just ask Hillary to run on the Republican ticket.

That wide enough?


63 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:07 PM PST by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: RockinRight

Medved tries to be a realist.


64 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:19 PM PST by EveningStar (Hillary Clinton is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit - P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: RockinRight

I always liked Medved but got tired of his party over principle mantra.


65 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: kjo

'Yeah, I remember Stassen. The only reason he's not running this time is that he's dead"

Why should that stop him? With all the dead votes in this country, he now has a real chance!!


66 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:41 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: EveningStar
Stick your head in a movie projector Medved.

Just today I sent a contribution to the Ron Paul 08 exploratory committee.

Is he going to get a large media following? No.

Is he going to be welcomed by the party bigwigs? No.

Do I even think he is going to win? No.

The reason I gave to Ron Paul is because he most reflects what I believe and because it is my money. My 50 bucks doesn't mean anything to the Republican Party. Pro-Death Rudy and Cactus John are making all the noise because they are the choices of the wealthy elites. So let the wealthy elites fund them.

It is only in the primaries that we even have the appearance of a choice. So at least in the primaries I will fund someone I actually like, not someone who is simply less distasteful than his or her opponent.

67 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:44 PM PST by trek
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To: kjo

Then no one is going to beat Hillary, in the primary or general.


68 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SoCalPol

I don't have a guy yet, still watching the field. I think I have plenty of time. I also have two votes. A primary, and the election. If Hunter is on the ballot for the primary, he'll get due consideration.


69 posted on 02/10/2007 2:52:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: cripplecreek

It's more of a winning over losing principle.


70 posted on 02/10/2007 2:53:24 PM PST by EveningStar (Hillary Clinton is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit - P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Antoninus
Yup , I'm DAMNED tired of being told to "Shut UP, Get in Line , and ABOVE ALL Keep those dollars coming in!'

I'm goin to the wall for Duncan!!

71 posted on 02/10/2007 2:53:26 PM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: EveningStar
Do Vanity Candidates Really Have a Chance? (Michael Medved)

About as often as vanity threads.

72 posted on 02/10/2007 2:54:21 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function.)
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To: trek

Ron Paul does not support the war in Iraq.
He is no better than the Dems.


73 posted on 02/10/2007 2:54:30 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: trek

Thank You for being true.


74 posted on 02/10/2007 2:54:39 PM PST by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: EveningStar

Seems like a self-perpetuating mechanism that ensures the front-runners stay in front ("I support them because they are in front"). I wonder if this sort of logic would be applied if it was Tancredo, Paul, and Hunter in the top three. Are these guys screwed by screwed by their ideas and values or by polling-induced follow the leader syndrome? Bah.


76 posted on 02/10/2007 2:56:20 PM PST by M203M4
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To: PatrickF4

McCain and Giuliani will get gushed over. Until the day after the primary. Then they will be portrayed as more extreme than Tom Tancredo. That's the fact.


77 posted on 02/10/2007 2:57:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: uptoolate

"Why don't we just ask Hillary to run on the Republican ticket."

There's no need to get nasty, LOL!

We have a field of candidates, and way too much time to listen to them. We each have one vote in the end. The probability that Republican candidate will get mine is 99.9%, no matter which one gets the nomination.


78 posted on 02/10/2007 2:57:09 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: kjo

The Republican Party was formed out of an amalgam of previous parties, most of which had essentially collapsed.

American (Known-Nothings), Whigs, Free-Soilers and a good many anti-slavery Democrats.

I'm not sure it's really accurate to pick out one of these groups and say they were precursors. Numerically the largest group were probably ex-Whigs, as was Lincoln.

The GOP formed out of the ferocious opposition to the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act, with the Democrats' subservience to slaveholders essentially cutting their own throats in the North. Most of those opposed to this Act eventually coalesced into the Republican party. But in its early years it was a very diverse group.


79 posted on 02/10/2007 2:57:20 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Recognition of one's ignorance is the beginning of wisdom.)
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To: donna
It's not vanity to want to influence the issues. It's good citizenship.

Well said.

80 posted on 02/10/2007 2:58:01 PM PST by secretagent
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