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Do Vanity Candidates Really Have a Chance? (Michael Medved)
Michael Medved's Townhall Blog ^
| February 8, 2007
| Michael Medved
Posted on 02/10/2007 2:16:42 PM PST by EveningStar
Two days ago, in blogging about the abortion records of the serious GOP Presidential prospects (McCain, Giuliani, Romney), I provoked a great deal of anger by writing off the other current contenders (Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, Gilmore, Thompson, Duncan Hunter) as "lesser" candidates who stand no realistic chance of winning primaries or grabbing the nomination. No matter how much you may admire these people, their candidacies are irrelevant more a bid for attention, or a preparation for future races, than a realistic bid for power...
When, in the last 60 years of Presidential politics, did any obscure underdog manage to defy the odds and win the nomination of the Republican Party?...
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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Torie
181
posted on
02/10/2007 4:02:40 PM PST
by
deport
To: AmishDude
Trust me on this one. It was clear the Kerry was going to win for a couple of weeks, and that Dick Gephardt was comatose. The chat was whether or not Dean would sell better in NH, and be able to survive the body blow he was going to get in Iowa.
182
posted on
02/10/2007 4:03:30 PM PST
by
Torie
(The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
To: Torie
My recollection is that Dean was considered dead meat two to three weeks before the Iowa primary. He just seemed too controversial, chatting about repealing all the tax cuts, etc. And he was making outrageous charges such as Bush knowing about 9/11 in advance. He was talking crazy.
Still does. :)
To: AmishDude
By the way, Iowa farm land prices went up another 10% last year. Aren't ethanol subsidies grand? I hope you got in on the ground floor, and have purchased a fair chunk of Story County. My mother's and my aunt's farm is now worth more than my house in Orange County, California. Who knew?
184
posted on
02/10/2007 4:08:26 PM PST
by
Torie
(The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
To: zbigreddogz
My recollection of it was, the Soros/DU wing of the party had the upper hand until the Iowa Caucus, when the loyalists from the Clintons & Kennedy wing of the party appeared on the scene. Kerry was "IN" with them in a big way.
It quickly became the status quo versus the well funded but politically impotent little leaguers.
185
posted on
02/10/2007 4:08:47 PM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
To: Movermike
How is it Mr Medved that Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, Gilmore, Thompson, Duncan Hunter don't have a chance, but Barak Hussein Obama, and his 20 months experience, does? >
If barack were caucasian, would he have a chance ? Hell no he wouldn't.
To: BunnySlippers
To: EveningStar
Bump for Constitutional scholar Ron Paul. The Constitution should be the top issue for every candidate.
I know the document this nation is based on is safe under his watch.
To: zbigreddogz
I'm the authority, I'm right, you're wrong, and your are at once impertinent and churlish to doubt me, much less contradict me.
189
posted on
02/10/2007 4:10:34 PM PST
by
Torie
(The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
To: ilgipper
McCain. He's an 'it's his time' candidacy. Of the big 3, McCain is my least favorite, but for the reason you cite, I think McCain wins it.
To: SolidWood
Speaking ability has little to do with it. The fact that Hunter has developed many political enemies in the media is a sure problem for him. Trust me on this.
191
posted on
02/10/2007 4:10:53 PM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
To: AmishDude
Here is a poll conducted Jan 13-16, 2004. The caucuses were held on the 19th. To my mind, that was the first indication that Dean was in trouble. (I believe what did him in -- because he was on tenderhooks to begin with -- was yelling at the heckler questioner.) And even then, Dean was at 20% and Kerry was only at 26%. Kerry ended up with 38%, Edwards at 32%.
192
posted on
02/10/2007 4:11:31 PM PST
by
AmishDude
(It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
To: EveningStar
Medved is such a Republican party hack it boggles the mind. There is nothing conservative about him.
To: mysterio
Constitutional scholar?
Yah, I'm sure he learned all about the Constitution while getting his M.D. /sarc
To: Movermike
How is it Mr Medved that Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, Gilmore, Thompson, Duncan Hunter don't have a chance, but Barak Hussein Obama, and his 20 months experience, does? Obama has mass appeal and will get $$$ in his campaign warchest.
195
posted on
02/10/2007 4:13:49 PM PST
by
EveningStar
(Hillary Clinton is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit - P. J. O'Rourke)
To: Torie
To: Torie
Unlike OC, CA, I don't have to take out a second mortgage to pay property taxes.
I own some property, but it's a little townhouse, so I really don't have much land.
And frankly, it's a pain in the butt. I'd rather rent. It's too much trouble for me to clean, etc.
197
posted on
02/10/2007 4:14:08 PM PST
by
AmishDude
(It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
To: BunnySlippers; All
OK, here's the thing: Protest candidates historically do not win presidential elections unless things are really bad. The kind of people on the right who think things are really bad and who rail against mainstream conservatives are on the fringe, but they have come to see themselves as the voice of the GOP base. The last time a protest candidate got anywhere near to being a major contender was Ross Perot, and thanks to him we got eight years of Bubba. No thanks! And don't talk to me about "Underdogs." Clinton, as much as I couldn't stand him, was already fairly well known in Dummycrat circles by 1992 and had been governor for several years. Egotistical congressmen don't get to become president (at best they become speaker of the House : ))
Rommney and Rudy are, for all their faults, still perhaps the best bet for the GOP keeping the White House and for bringing at least some measure of common sense back to the party. Enough with the Bush clones and nannystaters masquerading as "Real conservatives!"
198
posted on
02/10/2007 4:15:33 PM PST
by
WestVirginiaRebel
(A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel-Robert Frost)
To: CyberAnt
To: AmishDude
Not enough room to grow corn eh?
200
posted on
02/10/2007 4:15:48 PM PST
by
Torie
(The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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