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New York Times' John Burns on Iraq and American media's coverage of it.
The Hugh Hewitt Show ^ | 2/9/07 | John Burns / Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 02/10/2007 6:18:31 AM PST by Valin

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1 posted on 02/10/2007 6:18:37 AM PST by Valin
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John Burns, the New York Times foreign correspondent, talks about the state of Iraq, and how the media has covered it.
http://www.townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=275aa991-6052-4d47-9960-61db017de1e7


2 posted on 02/10/2007 6:19:24 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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HH: Are you aware of the work of Michael Yon and Bill Roggio?

JB: I’m not. Tell me about them.

HH: Well, they’re independents who are out embedded with troops in combat zones from Fallujah to Mosul and into Baghdad, etc.

JB: Yes, I’ve heard about them.

HH: So they’re freelance people, and I was wondering if they’d influenced you at all, or if you’d met them at all.

JB: No, I’ve heard about people who do this. I haven’t met them, and you know, it’s…this new media thing is something that we’re all struggling to cope with, and of course, they have a kind of, if you will, an independence and a free-wheeling way of doing things which I think is all for the good. I think more competition, more voices, more perspectives…bring it on. It’s good for all of us, and it keeps us on our toes.


No,yes,no. JB is confused. "new media thing", "struggling to cope with", "bring it on"


3 posted on 02/10/2007 6:31:51 AM PST by PGalt
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What I get out of this interview is that if we pull out of Iraq because of all the Democrat and mainstream media nay sayers then aren't these same people responsible for a tacit acceptance of genocide.

Sounds just like Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam all over?
4 posted on 02/10/2007 6:51:14 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: PGalt

I was shocked to read that, too. Don't know how any working and serious journalist in iraq cannot know who Bill Roggio and Michael Yon are. I hope Mr. Burns goes to the web soon to see.


5 posted on 02/10/2007 7:01:54 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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Doubtful. He's struggling to cope with the new media thing but throws down the challenge to bring it on.

J BS


6 posted on 02/10/2007 7:12:31 AM PST by PGalt
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To: zot; Interesting Times

Lengthy but worth reading.


7 posted on 02/10/2007 7:18:01 AM PST by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: april15Bendovr
Yup! But why should the leftwing moonbats care about that? I mean it's just a bunch of brown skinned muzzie, and what's the death of 10''s of 1,000's of them compared to "getting Bush"?
8 posted on 02/10/2007 7:19:53 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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bttt


9 posted on 02/10/2007 7:23:00 AM PST by Osage Orange ("The man who most vividly realizes a difficulty is the man most likely to overcome it.")
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"Sounds just like Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam all over?"

Have you ever heard Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, or Jane Fonda take responsibility for what happened in Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam? And they wouldn't take responsibility for what will happen in Iraq, either. It would have to be forced on them, by Freepers and people of like mind.


10 posted on 02/10/2007 7:28:19 AM PST by popdonnelly (Conservatives must have their own long march through the institutions.)
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To: gotribe

I've not heard of these guys either. Is there a website or blog that carries their reports?


11 posted on 02/10/2007 7:41:02 AM PST by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Valin

I found it disheartening that he wasn't really aware of the job that Michael Yon is doing to present the war from the military perspective.

This brings up the question of why aren't there more reporters embedded with US troops. If there are only 70 MSM reporters from the US and foriegn countries, that simply isn't enough manpower to cover the war adequately.


12 posted on 02/10/2007 8:35:48 AM PST by wildbill
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If Iraq became the 51st State and Democrats needed votes then they would care. I think we should cut and run from New Orleans honestly.


13 posted on 02/10/2007 8:41:18 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: popdonnelly
They still seem proud of having their role ending a war but not accepting any consequence of 4 million people being slaughtered as a result of helping our enemy with like-minded propaganda.

The socialist pinko liberals viewed then and now an advantage for advancing their own personal agenda without any care for what their actions would have on Americas stability.

Its once again ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS politics. We are still using political correctness to fight the war on terrorism, The media is still reporting from the Green Zone using video footage and photographs from Al jazeera and our enemy for their news reports, The Iraq Study Group, 911 Commission and Senate Select Intelligence Committee are all focused on pre-war intelligence and ignoring the captured documents Jveritas worked on translating declassified by John Negroponte titled the Docex Project that showed clear connections to Al Qaeda and Saddam.

I hope the Mainstream Media, Democrats and Liberals all rot in hell.

14 posted on 02/10/2007 9:07:45 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: GreyFriar; Interesting Times

John Burns is working for the wrong newspaper.


15 posted on 02/10/2007 10:25:12 AM PST by zot (GWB -- the most slandered man of this decade)
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To: true_blue_texican
Michael Yon gained some fame embedding with the Deuce Four, stationed in Mosul. Based on Yon's reporting, Bruce Willis was inspired to make a movie about the unit. Article on the movie

See Michael Yon's website at www.michaelyon-online.com

Bill Roggio has embedded and has posted many insightful stories about the war at Bill Roggio.com

16 posted on 02/10/2007 11:04:28 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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bump


17 posted on 02/10/2007 11:07:28 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: gotribe

Based on Yon's reporting, Bruce Willis was inspired to make a movie about the unit

The thing is there are so many great stories to be told about this war, not just from Iraq but from all over the world.


18 posted on 02/10/2007 5:42:58 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
there is a firewall, and it’s real, it’s real, between the editorial page and the news pages.

This single sentence fragment tells you that everything else that you read in this article is a GD lie. Period.

19 posted on 02/10/2007 5:51:35 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: wildbill
This brings up the question of why aren't there more reporters embedded with US troops. If there are only 70 MSM reporters from the US and foriegn countries, that simply isn't enough manpower to cover the war adequately.

According to the claims of one reporter (name escapes), the MSM realized that their embedded reporters were getting "too friendly" with the military and pulled them out -- refusing any further embed opportunities.

All for the sake of their "objectivity", of course.

20 posted on 02/10/2007 6:34:59 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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