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Congress poised to regulate tobacco (next week)
TimesDispatch.com ^ | Feb 9, 2007 | PETER HARDIN

Posted on 02/09/2007 4:35:32 PM PST by SheLion

WASHINGTON -- Bipartisan legislation to give the federal Food and Drug Administration regulatory control over tobacco products may be introduced next week.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: keepyournoseout; nannystate; nostrildamus; potsmokerslaughing
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To: SheLion
BLACK BIRCH BIGGEST ANTI-SMOKER IN FREE REPUBLIC. NO WONDER OUR PARTY IS IN TROUBLE!!!

Democrats out number Republicans by something like 43% to 39%. Republicans get into office with the assistance of the wishy washy independent voter unless they are in a Republican stronghold. Republicans can't really afford to have their fellow voters dropping dead early from smoking related diseases.

That is a bigger problem than me making a few negative comments about smoking..

181 posted on 02/11/2007 10:38:49 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Old Professer
The argument for premature death assumes that each of us is alloted a certain number of years and, if we don't make it, something intervened to put us down.

Yes, the notion that a birth certificate carries an expiration date and the only goal in life is meeting or exceeding that date is confounding to me.

It's as if life were some sort of term paper to be completed according to schedule - and then what?

The goal of dying in perfect health has been met?

182 posted on 02/11/2007 10:53:51 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
"Anti-smoking activists say a steep tax increase would raise billions of dollars and make it harder for teen-agers to afford cigarettes. Teens should be prohibited from buying cigarettes."

My all-time favorite nonsense argument. I had more disposible income as a teenager than I've had at any time in my life. Teenagers will be the LAST people that CAN afford cigarettes.

183 posted on 02/11/2007 11:02:52 AM PST by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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To: SheLion

The FDA should be stripped of all its regulatory authority except maybe warning labels. Like, it's your own trip, man, but be advised there is a warning on this or that.


184 posted on 02/11/2007 11:34:56 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well, at least now your library card is safe, or is it? I forgot how this came out while they were telling the fools what Bush was doing to destroy the Constitution.

If by now there is one smoker who doesn't know that there is harm in smoking, he will die soon.


185 posted on 02/11/2007 11:37:10 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Black Birch
Republicans can't really afford to have their fellow voters dropping dead early from smoking related diseases.

Before they become Social Security Democratics.
186 posted on 02/11/2007 11:39:24 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Black Birch
According to statistics I am likely to be safer driving in a car with second hand smoke than walking to work.

I'm eager to see these statistics; please, do cite them!

So, if you support smoking bans based on the harm of second-hand smoke, why don't you support bans on unnecessary driving based on the well-documented harm drivers cause others?

187 posted on 02/11/2007 11:52:09 AM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: Madame Dufarge

The state would settle for, "in working order..."


188 posted on 02/11/2007 12:14:55 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
PS -The big type is because your eyes are shot at your age

Thank you....;-)

All true, too.

189 posted on 02/11/2007 12:32:25 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Black Birch
I don't know what form of pneumonia they died of. but I suspect smoking contributed to their early departure..

Do you always diagnose in the absence of facts and using "suspicion" as a guiding force, Dr. Birch?

How nice that you quit smoking.

Why do you feel compelled to pester and patronize anyone who still does?

Let it go, live your own life and respect others enough to acknowledge they have the same right as you to do the same.

190 posted on 02/11/2007 12:38:35 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Ditter
You just don't get it do you?

No, you don't get it.

I'm sure you don't realize how childish you sound.

Why can't you whiners just declare victory and shut up?

Your incessant, over-the-top caterwauling has arranged the big, scary world to a such a degree that every smoker in the world now has to stand on the head of a pin to have a cigarette, you've destroyed private property rights and the lives of countless hard-working business owners, crushed civility, and yet you still feel compelled to inflict your incessant complaining on the world in general.

It's approaching psychosis, and still you persist.

191 posted on 02/11/2007 12:50:53 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
It's not me whining and caterwauling, it's your side. Why do you think I come here. Its called schadenfrauden baby.
192 posted on 02/11/2007 1:25:25 PM PST by Ditter
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To: ellery
So, if you support smoking bans based on the harm of second-hand smoke

Nowhere on any of these threads have I supported bans. I think I said about 5 times on this thread that I don't support bans. I guess you didn't read the entire thread.

Try googling smoking death statistics.

193 posted on 02/11/2007 1:28:43 PM PST by EVO X
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To: Madame Dufarge
It's approaching psychosis, and still you persist.

I'd have to put that comment in the category of the pot calling the kettle black.

194 posted on 02/11/2007 1:31:48 PM PST by EVO X
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To: Ditter
A failed attempt at deflection is no cause for schadenfreude, baby.

See what I mean by "childish?"

Why do you think I come here.

I would guess some sort of spiritual emptiness or puerile attempt at risk-free revenge for a perceived offense against your self-absorption.

Pure speculation on my part, of course, but one can only work with the information available.

195 posted on 02/11/2007 1:37:15 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Before they become Social Security Democratics

LOL, I may have to rethink this line of reasoning..

196 posted on 02/11/2007 1:38:47 PM PST by EVO X
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To: Madame Dufarge
Failed? FAILED? Things get better and better for the non smokers and worse and worse for the smokers. Who is failing here?


Thanks for the psychoanalysis Dr. Dufarge but it's way off base.
197 posted on 02/11/2007 1:44:57 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Black Birch
I'd have to put that comment in the category of the pot calling the kettle black.

How so?

Hasn't the reformed-whore contingent gained their great victory?

Smokers just want to be left alone now. Yet you born-agains, having lost all awareness of the messiness that drives a free society, can't resist waving the banner of your neuroses as if it were a flag of victory.

I'm almost embarrassed for you.

198 posted on 02/11/2007 1:46:47 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion

I'm with you on that She-Lion. I don't need any jackass politicians telling me what's good and not good for me but welcomes every damn tax dollar I pay for smokes! Waxman looks like he's been sniffin' too much nose candy or his mother carried him by the nose when he was just a mere child! :)


199 posted on 02/11/2007 1:47:59 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Ditter
Things get better and better for the non smokers and worse and worse for the smokers. Who is failing here?

You're failing.

"Neener, neener" is a wonderful guiding principle for a free society.

200 posted on 02/11/2007 1:50:10 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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