Posted on 02/09/2007 6:20:45 AM PST by Nextrush
......Christoph Cardinal Schonborn of Vienna delivered a speech Wednesday night in a continued effort to correct the frequent misconceptions regarding the Church's teaching on creation and evolution. In his lecture, Schonborn took to task the US court that forbad the teaching of "intelligent design" in a Pennsylvania school and accused the court of mandating censorship in schools and the general public.
Schonborn's lecture was sponsored by the New York based Homeland Foundation.
Schonborn was commenting on a 2005 US federal court ruling that forbad the Dover, Pennsylvania school district from teaching "intelligent design" creation theory in its biology classes. The cardinal condmened the ruling saying that it only allowed for children to be taught an athiestic view of creation without any mention of a Divine Creator. "A truly liberal society would at least allow students to hear of the debate," he said.
The judge in the Dover case ruled that "intelligent design" could not be taught in the school system because it was too closely related to creationism..........
In his lecture, Schonborn reinforced the Church's position that science alone cannot explain creation but was careful to explain that "the Catholic faith can accept" the possibility that evolution does,in fact,occur but only under the direction of God, Himself.......
"Commonly in the scientific community every inquiry into the scientific weaknesses of the theory is blocked off at the very outset," Schonborn said of Darwinism. "To some extent there prevails a type of censoring here of the sort which one eagerly reproached the church in former times.".........
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The dislcaimer card and that's all the "intelligent design" that was to be presented in the classroom is exactly what the policy was designed to do.
To let students know there was a debate about evolution........
The good Austrian cardinal is thanked for his input, and reminded that there is in fact no debate.
The testimony at trial and the judge's opinion proves that the Discovery Institute attempted to perpetrate fraud upon the public; all they changed in the different editions of the textbook was to replace "creationism" to "intelligent design."
Got to hand it to the Austrian bishops, they got guts.
Nice of him to say so, although it's irrelevant. I think it would be more useful for him to mention the Catholic Church's position on Catholics' sending their children to atheist schools.
The Discovery Institute was not a party to the Dover lawsuit, you know.
Their heritage includes facing the Nazis head on.
Young Adolf himself talked back to the priest who taught him religion in an Austrian school and openly said he was a "free thinker."
Adolf got kicked out of that school but as you might remember he returned to Austria in 1938 and the church there was persecuted and repressed.
There was a serious side to "The Sound of Music," you know.
Schnitzel with noodles (spaetzle, actually) is some SERIOUS stuff...
Schoenborn affirmed that the Catholic Church rejects creationism, saying "the first page of the Bible is not a cosmological treatise about the coming to be of the world in six days." He also said that "the Catholic faith can accept" the possibility that God uses evolution as a tool. But he said science alone cannot explain the origins of the universe.
I know they weren't. But the judge based his decision on the fact that both editions of the textbook amounted to the teaching of religion in a public school. And the changing of one word in a textbook did not satisfy the demands of the Supreme Court criteria on that point.
I feel heavier just thinking about it.
These quotes look out of context. You should probably wait to see what Schonborn actually said. The good Cardinal past positions have not involved scientific Darwinism so much as they are a defense of traditional Church philosophy that there is a hierarchal nature to cause and effect.
I see our friends in the Vatican are still positioned in the time period of 1535, and are lost. They have forgotten an interesting point, being: Who controls education - the left.
Look again friar tuck, and tell me what you see.
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14th centuary thinking is not open to debate. If you like it so much, go live with the Amish.
I'm going to stir something up here, but the Catholic Church never faced the Nazis head on. At various times it cooperated with, legitimized, aided, stood neutral with -- and, yes, opposed -- the Nazis. But never head on, at least from the Vatican. That said, there was a lot of heroism by priests and other church figures on the local level, but they were generally acting on their own initiative.
For the most part, the Church seemed too afraid of the Nazis to actively and directly oppose them. When the Church spoke up, it was generally in angry response to militarism and to the adoption of religious imagery by Hitler. But oddly, the Church was silent on the subject of the Jews and other victims of the Nazi terror.
Who knew there were still Christians in Austria.
Trolling again, I see.
The left has tried to discredit the Catholic Church at every turn, especially when the Church turns against the left.
Of course, Cardinal Pacelli (Pope John 23rd) was really a Nazi agent? Right.....
Take the exit ramp......
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