[Kitten Festival]

Burn corn squeezins, make Chavez drink his oil.

[xcamel]

Burn corn, half the 3rd world will starve.
bad, bad choice.

[Calpernia]

ping

[GSlob]

Together with all other drinkers, I'm a proud Axis of Ethanol member. Ted K. is an honorary chair, BTW.

[Dajjal]

tortilla bump

[dynachrome]

Make your own. The gubmint requires you add stuff to make it undrinkable.

http://www.ethanolstill.com/

[SierraWasp]

Ethanol = Unsustainable, subsidized, food burning, mileage ruining, non-pipelinable, corrosive, caustic, economically backward FRAUD!!!

[right-wingin_It]

Ethanol from Corn is certainly not the answer. And for starters there is not enough land area, for both food production and US ethanol consumption as a feul

I once thought long ago, What about pond scum? as in pumping CO2 into algae reactors.

I just looked it up, you Pump CO2 into giant glass solar algae photobioreactors....then you got two options...1) make biodiesel from the algae, or 2) Make it anaerobic and collect the Hydrogen gas. In the first case, the entire cycle would be carbon neutral process to the atmosphere. In the second case, it be carbon reducing. (Not that I'm taking a side on global warming or anything)

I'm not saying that it will be feasable, but I suspect algae reactors would be more energy rich and more efficient to maintain than ethanol production from corn or grass fields.

It might also be possible to do this on the ocean surface somehow, so as not to take up much land area.

[SunkenCiv]

I tried cramp bark when I was a kid! I could lift a car!

[NicknamedBob]

There's something here for everybody.

Butanol -- a four carbon alcohol. More compatible with pipelines and engine parts. Possibly higher production efficiencies than ethanol.

But you'll have to sort through it on your own.

[HereInTheHeartland]

More nukes and less kooks...

[lndrvr1972]

That is the truth if we came up with another fuel alternative that is economicaly viable to oil it would really make these middle eastern states begging us to buy dates from them.

[omnivore]

Corn is one of the most fertilizer-intensive crops extant, because it produces an enormous variety of nutrients. Most of which are not needed at all, to produce ethanol. They are, of course, very valuable as human nutrients.

Ethanol can be produced by potatoes, rice, barley, a large variety of plants. To make ethanol from corn, which requires the greatest amounts of fertilizer, is just plain nonsensical. Better to make it from sugar beets, sugar cane, potatoes, or other starchy crops which do not need such high levels of fertilizer to maintain the soil in a productive state.

One would think this would be obvious to any semi-intelligent observer, but apparently it is not even remotely comprehensible to people in government. So sad.

So, it needs to be emphasized, perhaps with (idiotic) repetition, like the insanity of advertising: make ethanol from starchy crops, not high-nutrient-value crops. Duh!

[XR7]

The cost of corn has skyrocketed.
What does that mean?
U.S. dairy & cattle farmers are going bankrupt in record numbers.

[MadIvan]

Petrodiesel, then bio-diesel. Reduce consumption, cause a price collapse, then cut Chavez and every other OPEC country off at the knees.

Regards, Ivan

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Ethanol, hopefully, will be merely a stopgap.

www.butanol.com