I guess because when the first few Rudy articles started coming out and a few of us talked about what great leadership Rudy showed in NYC during his term as Mayor and in the days after 9/11 and we were visciously attacked that we've become overly sensitive and now when people even mention that they aren't sure about Rudy, we're reluctant to be drawn into convesation about him and we are snappish. I apologize for my role in that.
My family calls me to the right of Attila the Hun and I think I'm quite socially conservative, but I have to say, since 1980, what strides have we made toward even dramatically reducing abortion, let alone abolishing it?
Conservatives used to wish for the states to be given the power to determine a lot of policy and perhaps most especially social policy. That seems to have changed, although I'm not sure if the states just gave up or if Republican opinion about that changed.
Regardless, it is the states who are making the most strides with regard to policy surrounding social issues. My current state, SC, is passing legislation which will require a woman to obtain an ultrasound and counseling prior to an abortion. This has proven in other states to dramatically reduce the number of performed abortions because the new technology has improved so much in the last decade that women can finally see, it's not a blob.
Women my age are becoming grandmothers for the first time and are seeing their daughter's ultrasounds and realizing just how wrong they've been all these years. They may not admit it out loud, although I've heard a few admit it, but inside, hearts and minds are changing.
But those hearts will harden again if we have a staunch conservative in the WH who talks about getting rid of Roe v. Wade. That's just human nature and after years of conditioning by the feminists, this issue needs to be handled one heart at a time, not with one "mean spirited" Republican "forcing" women into backroom alleys, etc. You know all the arguments.
And what if we have a stauch pro-choice pubbie as president? Do you think he would use the bully pulpit to continue to persuade people to move away from legalized abortion?
Would he veto a repeal of the PBA ban if the Dems sent it to his desk?
Thanks for your reply, Peach. It was well thought out and reasoned.
I still am really torn about what I will do if it comes down to Rudy vs. Hitliary. I'm afraid that Republicans are sometimes more able to sneak bad legislation past Congress than Democrats would, but I also think that a reign of Hitliary might be as bad to us as Chavez is for Venzuela.
I can easily see her asking for, and receiving, the "power of decree," and her seizing all industries and media that she disagrees with.
Ed
The way traditionally pro-life people's hearts were hardened when Roe became law? Making abortion legal also made it more morally acceptable to a large percentage of the population many of whom had previously been opposed to it. When something is legalized it also becomes more moral in the eyes of society. Overtime, generations of young who become exposed to such immorality also see it as moral, and thus there is a growth in the percentage of people in the U.S. population who now see abortion as moral compared with the day Roe became law.
The overturning of Roe will mean the issue will be returned to the states. Some states will keep it legal, others will not. But a decrease in the laws allowing abortion will effect an increase in the numbers of people who again believe it is morally wrong.
Should we have kept slavery legal because making it illegal would harden the hearts of some slave owners?
I heard you argument from Liberals back in college, and made similar arguments against it. It is as faulty and illogical now as it was then.