Give me a Freaking break and keep the hyperbole in this Galaxy, will ya, sheesh.
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Rudy Julie-Annie
Sorry, a TR he ain't.
Posted on 02/08/2007 7:43:13 AM PST by bilhosty
Rudy Giuliani's announcement that he will seek the Republican presidential nomination brings to my mind a book I wrote in the early 1990s, "The Conservative Crack-Up." When I wrote the book, Ronald Reagan's successor, President George H. W. Bush, was ignoring many of the constituent ingredients of the Reagan Revolution, for instance, tax cuts. The various factions of the conservative coalition were disgruntled and threatening to take a walk. Once again liberal pundits were diagnosing the conservative movement as moribund.
Ever since the conservative movement's ascendancy within the Republican Party in 1964, these grim diagnoses have been handed down episodically. Every time there is dissatisfaction among conservatives or they suffer some electoral setback, the liberal pundits step forward and pronounce the modern conservative movement at death's door. In my book I ventured the witticism that "conservatism is America's longest dying political movement."
By 1994 and the arrival of Newt Gingrich's "Contract With America," it became apparent that the movement was not dead but rather on its way to palmy days. This was what I anticipated in "The Conservative Crack-Up," where I was careful to note that though the movement embraces contending factions, they all
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Rudy's service as mayor didn't translate into conservative policy in general in New York, nor did it result in Republican ascendancy in the political sphere. He and Arnold are two of a kind - RINOs. I know you won't like or appreciate this statement, but it is true nonetheless. We really have to do better than Rudy. I won't repeat the litany of the many issues which he is off the reservation on - I'll just say that he's no Ronald Reagan. The rest of America isn't going to like having the choice between two New York liberals, no matter whether they have a D or an R behind their names.
Isn't this a duplicate post?
Interesting Rudy's financial people are from the conservative-libertarian Manhattan Institute and he conducted his mayoral duties in NYC following the policy.
Autheor goes on to state that Rudy repressed NYC's nanny state when he was elected.
Oops! Yes it is. Oh by the way I'm still trying to find that info for you. I can't believe they deleted it - I'm looking for another source. He was in Herndon yesterday speaking at the Dulles Regional Chamber of Commerce's 12th annual Awards Gala. They interviewed him and he said he was thinking of running again.
I cannot remember who pointed out the fact, but it was a very telling one. In dozens of opportunities to appoint judges in NYC, Rudy never appointed one Republican. With the Judiciary trashing the constitution and American culture, as well, we need someone who knows how precious those appointment opportunities are.
I live in NYC and voted for Rudy both times I was eligible to do so. I was never even tempted to vote for the Conservative candidate (I did vote Conservative against Bloomberg -- but only when I was certain that Bloomberg would win). Rudy was the single-best mayor of my lifetime, and I go back to the late 1950s. My brother moved out of town about 2 years into Rudy's first term and, when he came back to visit a couple of months later, he noticed the difference. The city was cleaner and more efficient. Rudy is no John Lindsay.
That's simply not true. Yes, Rudy was very liberal in his talk on some issues, notably abortion. But he didn't DO anything liberal during his time in office.
Arnold came in when California was in a mess, and he has worked very hard to make it worse. He has spent money like a drunken sailor, and he has DONE things like support taxpayer funded fetal stem cell research that Rudy never did.
Rudy came in when the city was a total mess, the budget was a shambles, there were riots in Brooklyn, the police were forbidden to do their jobs, and crime was rampant. He fixed the budget, he fixed the criminal problem, he got the drug addicts off the streets and the waiting room benches, he renewed the tourist industry, and although he continued to talk like a pro-abort he never did anything to further abortion.
I worked in New York under mayors Lindsay, Beam, Koch, Dinkins, and Giuliani. Koch was a decent mayor despite being a liberal, but Giuliani was a great mayor, and not just on the one occasion of 9/11.
The abortion angle makes me nervous, but he never did anything to actually push abortion--unlike Bloomberg and unlike Arnold.
TR would have called Rudy a "sissy," punched his lights out, and then gone big game hunting.
I am for urban reform. That's where all of our problems are.
I have said it before on this forum and I will say it again; Rudy’s performance on 9/11 was spectacular and truly great.
However, having said that, there is a defining moment in his history that truly makes him a leader and not a manager. Yassar Arafat was visiting the UN and going to present a speech. He was attending a show in NYC after he had been identified as the head of a terrorist organization. In defiance of the entire Clinton administration and all of the phony cronies in that gaggle of cowards, Rudy had Arafat escorted out of the theater and back to his hosting Embassy and restricted to that Embassy and the UN.
When the ensuing hue and cries went up to feverish pitch, Rudy calmly stated that terrorists are not allowed to be on the streets of his town. When the State Department (the old hag Madeline (NOT AT) Albright, the UN fraud (Kofi), and all of the other offended parties were calling for his head; Rudy calmly restated his rule and all of the petty little cowards backed off in the face of a Leader confident in speaking the truth based on a solid sense of values.
Lord, spare me from electing a Manager” to run my country. Let me elect a leader and have him hire the right management staff.
Rant away folks.
Give me a Freaking break and keep the hyperbole in this Galaxy, will ya, sheesh.
Sorry, a TR he ain't.
Looks pretty Conservative to me! The best and brightest of Republican circles are part of his campaign and they are conservatives. Think everyone had a wake-up call in 2006 that we need to reach out and grow our Party. When you cannot count on any group not to vote, you have to take action to find new voters.
Think one problem I see is that this site has a larger ratio of social conservatives the the Republican Party as a whole. Most of us supporting Rudy come out the Conservative GOP but our primary issues are not social issues. We look for a leader who will stand up on the WOT, be strong on defense, is for less taxes and smaller government and will appointed judges who rule on the law not make new laws.
My sense is that a lot of us feel that social issues belong in the home, church, community and on rare instances at the state level when you vote on something like marriage between a man and a woman. We do not believe that social issues belong at the federal government level. Because of that, we will support a candidate for President who espouses our views on issues that are federal issues.
GOP Conservatives would never threaten to stay home and not vote -- that is against everything we believe in as Conservative Republicans who have donated countless hours to elect Conservative Republicans. I have one Senator whose primary focus is on defense and environmental policies to insure that defense is fully funded and the environmental wackos don't take over. My second Senator is all about ending earmarks and cutting pork spending. Neither one of them ran for office as a social conservative but as a CONSERVATIVE Republican.
My two cents this morning!
I couldn't have said it better.
Thanks, PKM!
Rudy said what he was going to do, and then did it.
This is so unusual in politicians that we can't really find an analagous candidate.
Everybody goes on and on about 9/11 (and Rudy was great), but it's what he did from 1/93-8/01 that seals the deal for me.
Sharpton, Maddox, NYCLU, all the scumbag commies in the tristate area - they foam at the mouth at the mention of his name.
"... He and Arnold are 2 of a kind - ..."
Obviously, you didn't read the article. Here is a tidbit - and if you can find Arnold there (except in the fake setting of movies) let me know:
"Well, one knows a politician by the company he keeps, and Mr. Giuliani has around him the financial people who created the libertarian-conservative Manhattan Institute. He relied heavily on the institute's policies while governing New York. He will rely on libertarian-conservative policy makers in his race for the White House and once there.
One also knows a political leader by the action he takes. As mayor, Mr. Giuliani took on the nanny state that city government had become, reducing the dependency that had one in seven New Yorkers living off government support. As for New York's huge welfare rolls, he more than halved them and had more than 100,000 welfare recipients finding work annually by 1999. He cleaned up the crime-ridden streets, cutting crime by 64% and murder by 67%. By cutting spending and taxes, he turned an economic basket case into an economic marvel. In eight years he reduced or extinguished 23 taxes. Every year he was in office, New York City's economy grew faster than the nation's.
Then came September 11 and he displayed to the nation the traits he had so successfully displayed in reviving his city. He was decisive, efficient, prudent, and — something only those at his side in Gracie Mansion already knew — brave. After the first plane struck the World Trade Center, he instantly rushed to the scene. Arriving just after the second plane hit he re-established governance nearby as the towers came down. He was in genuine peril but coolly oversaw the rescue work and communication with the outside world."
Arnold cannot even touch Rudy's accomplishments.
Clue: NEW YORK ISN'T CONSERVATIVE .. so "Rudy's service as mayor didn't translate into conservative policy ..." seems very logical. He still got more things done than just standing on conservative principles would have accomplished.
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