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ACLU sues for removal of Ten Commandments from courthouse steps
AP ^ | February 7, 2007

Posted on 02/07/2007 9:37:43 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

CROSS CITY, Fla. -- The American Civil Liberties Union is suing to force rural Dixie County to remove a hulking Ten Commandments monument from the courthouse steps.

The 5-foot-tall, 6-ton black granite monument stands in front of a building for the courthouse, the elections supervisor office, the tax collector and other public offices. The lawsuit filed in federal court Tuesday said the monument heaps on its religious message with the inscription "Love God and Keep His Commandments" in large capital letters at its base.

The Dixie County Commission approved the monument, donated by a local businessman, in January 2006 and it was placed on the courthouse steps in November. The county is on the Gulf Coast north of Tampa.

"Dixie County is, in effect, thumbing its nose at the Constitution by putting up this display," ACLU attorney Glenn Katon said.

Dixie County commissioners and the county attorney did not return several phone and e-mail messages left by the Associated Press on Wednesday.

"It's a great thing," Commission Chairman James Valentine told the St. Petersburg Times last month. "I believe in the Ten Commandments. I stand for it. It didn't cost the county a dime."

The lawsuit says the monument violates the First and 14th Amendments because it is not part of a historical display and because the uniquely Christian message of the Ten Commandments on a government building could intimidate people with different religious beliefs.

The suit was filed on behalf of the organization, not an individual plaintiff. The ACLU said it has "half a dozen" members in the north Florida county, but declined to name any residents who might testify in the case.

"This lawsuit is likely to be very unpopular lawsuit within Dixie County," said Florida ACLU Executive Director Howard Simon.

An initial effort to challenge the legality of the Dixie County monument fizzled because activists couldn't find a resident willing to sue.

The lack of an individual plaintiff may doom the case, said Brian Rooney, a spokesman for the nonprofit Thomas More Law Center, which has offered free legal aid to the Dixie County Commission. Commissioners had not yet asked the center to represent them Wednesday afternoon.

"It's interesting that they don't seem to have a plaintiff," Rooney said. "Once we get involved in the meat of the case, that's the first thing we're going to find out. Is there a case or controversy at all? That's a big hurdle for them to get past."

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that religious displays are not inherently unconstitutional and must be considered on a case-by-case basis. Last year, the high court allowed the Ten Commandments to be displayed outside the Texas state Capitol but not inside two Kentucky courthouses, where the justices said the displays promoted a religious message.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 10commandments; aclu; antiamerica; antiamerican; antichristian; tencommandments

1 posted on 02/07/2007 9:37:44 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Boil them in bird shit.


2 posted on 02/07/2007 9:38:50 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (I don't have any reason to be cynical, but...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You don't have to look at the Ten Commandments in the courthouse (no one is forcing them to do so, therefore it is not state forcing religion) so what is the big deal???

Oh yea, it is the American Communist Liberation Unit. (ACLU)


3 posted on 02/07/2007 9:40:06 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Love God and Keep His Commandments"

And? The problem would be.....???

4 posted on 02/07/2007 9:42:15 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
As a practicing Catholic, I can think of a billion better ways to be a better Christian than to put a stone slab in front of a public building.
But that's just me.
5 posted on 02/07/2007 9:47:09 PM PST by AcesFullMike
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How come the ACLU never bitches about other religions like Islam?


6 posted on 02/07/2007 9:57:25 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

7 posted on 02/07/2007 10:01:57 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

When Keith Ellison puts a big monument to the Koran up in the House of Representatives, I'm sure they'll pipe up.


8 posted on 02/07/2007 10:04:08 PM PST by AcesFullMike
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To: AcesFullMike
Well, you're right,
except about the symbolism of it all.

I'm no scholar in the matter but I can't see how any legal system can exist without a moral foundation.

For what it's worth, none of the islamist doctrines I'm aware of subscribe to the Ten Commandments.

I'd call that difference, between them and us, significant--definative, actually.

9 posted on 02/07/2007 10:36:26 PM PST by tsomer
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The lawsuit says the monument violates the First and 14th Amendments because it is not part of a historical display and because the uniquely Christian message of the Ten Commandments on a government building could intimidate people with different religious beliefs.

The 1st and 14th Amendments don't say anything about 'historical displays' or 'intimidation.' The 1st simply says "Congress shall make no law..." How does displaying a stone monument become 'Congress making a law?'

10 posted on 02/07/2007 11:08:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Welllllll, nuf said. ;^)

I should have read your post before posting my own. LOL

11 posted on 02/07/2007 11:11:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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I think that ACLU lawyers should all run full tilt headfirst into the monument and try to wash it away with their blood.


12 posted on 02/08/2007 1:11:38 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Tailgunner Joe

ACLU should be put on the endangered list.


13 posted on 02/08/2007 3:03:21 AM PST by JamesA
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"How come the ACLU never bitches about other religions like Islam?"

Because they are intolerant, communist christophobes.


14 posted on 02/10/2007 11:50:28 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

ACLU goes ballistic when on this subject. In general, they pretty much want to destroy anything that promotes good character. But they sure come out fighting for pedophiles.


15 posted on 02/10/2007 11:57:09 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The ACLU has never been able to tell us one negative thing resulting from the display of the ten commandments. Never.


16 posted on 02/10/2007 11:58:37 AM PST by DallasSun
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