Posted on 02/07/2007 2:40:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
We seem brittle? Buy a clue for yourself: We've been talking about freepers who think people who like Rudy should wear identifying armbands like the Jews and freepers who want us on the thread so they can "watch a flogging".
If you think that's normal, I feel sorry for you. You know what? I feel sorry for you anyway because you didn't bother to investigate why I made the statement that half these freepers are insane.
But maybe that's how you like to operate, so carry on.
He's outstanding on paper. All he need to do is impress. Voters, the public. If he can, he'll win the nomination.
I guess it never occurred to Mr. Giuliani that Ali Abu Hassan Kamal would have had pieces of his body splattered all over Midtown Manhattan if even a couple of other law-abiding citizens in the Empire State Building that day had been armed.
Hah! That's a GREAT one.
Right along with Rosie O'Donnell telling off Tom Seleck about guns but then her bodyguard carries guns into her kid's school.
If it was between Riechsfuhrer Hillary and Rudy Guiliani my choice would be to get a bunch of cosmoline from Brownells & some large diameter pvc pipe from Home Depot & bury my guns to keep them from being stolen by the whores in Washington D.C. .
Then I will be going back to the local junior college to take "math for trades" & machine tool technology classes so I can start to turn out my own 9mm submachine guns ie STEN guns.
I love the smell of two posts taken well out of context in the morning to create a misplaced sense of righteous indignation in the morning.
It smells like .. a septic tank that is in dire need of pumping out.
Don't feel bad for Hannity. Some of us had him picked as a complete fraud years ago.
I must put in my 2 cents for us in "flyover" territory.
This is what I want:
Limited government, no big socialist programs.
Someone who will protect the US and it's borders and is not interested in controlling or changing other countries. America first.
Strong 2nd amendment rights, without that, we are lost.
A strong presence as President in the international community but never someone who wishes to convince the rest of the world that we are right. You lead by example, not by forcing your ideals to others.
Someone who cares about what I think is the 14th amendment, that each state is basically responsible for anything not covered by the Constitution. I don't like abortion but you can't legislate morality. I really don't care if someone is gay or straight, stem cell research, again, not keen but if a state chooses.
I support Duncan Hunter in many of these ideals, so far, he's my best choice. My only concern is that he would try to legislate morality and that's a no winner situation.
Just wanted to let you know my opinion in case there are others who can also make a change.
If the best the truthtellers can come up with is crossdressing at a charity event, gay friends, divorce, endless war, et al, the truthtellers lose. In the context of a primary campaign, there's no shortage of legitimate negatives without stooping to Clinton levels, against any of the potential Dem candidates, I support him.
You're right, he's a masterful politician.
I'm not sure you meant that as a positive, but electorally it is.
(Did I leave anybody out?)
Oh, hey, I kinda disappeared there. Just one last post to say, in the words of the immortal Johnny Dangerously (not to be confused with Johnny Jihad), "I'm bored slapping you around. It bores me." So hasta solonga, folks, the last post I read or will read in this thread is the one I last responded to. I recommend that you hang around and tell each other you won; it might help relieve the stinging.
It might, but he would argue for the "greater good".
Not that you could buy a clue if someone gave you a million dollars, but here was the original quote:
"More like I wanted to make sure the rudybots were present for a flogging."
So you be sure to let me know which part of THAT I got wrong. Why, the answer is, none of it.
As to the armband issue, the post was removed.
Hey, EV, give Delphimium the skinny on this.
Some good pics, but i don't know what it means.
Hmmm...maybe I was mistaken. Link?
The freeper was not banned. The freeper is on this thread. The comment was removed.
There are a LOT of freepers who saw the post and it was discussed for days on a variety of Rudy threads.
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